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I think anti-Hindus should pause and think about where they are going with this "In-your-face" anti-Hindu stand. If anyone in the right minds want to be taken seriously (whatever be the agenda), the first step is to be civil and courteous to each other. Unfortunately this is one of the reasons a lot of valid grievances (of anti-Hindus) aren't given any credence in today's society.
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Posted by AmericanForIndia on Sep 7, 2005

Again I see "chauvinistic fantasia" of anti-Hindus is running amok. Following the great example here:
"Does that mean no "alien culture" or no tricky views like p-secularism and p-democracy will be thrust on all of us, no ban on Hon Sri Togadia to move freely in his own country or speak his mind freely, no expectations of cultural homogeneity by catholic and arabic conversion mafia, no force to learn this or that language like urdu or arabic in madrasas, finally,
[Hurrah!] no sharia binding muslim women to eternal hell now allowing them to date us! That is wonderful. No one would object, I am sure,"
those that pen them can perhaps be partly civilized by turn around of their phrases:

"Looks like many people still continue to believe in the Myth of [colonial] hegemony."

"And then this minority can be ‘properly’ [held to account and may be made to pay for their criminality] by the majority?

Coming to reality and reacting to Mr Nam here:
"However, once Aurangzeb started out with old Sunni methods of temple destruction, jizya etc, the empire unraveled and Hindu kings wreaked havoc on the fading Mughals. And in the end, it was the immensely crafty Shia Jinnah who had studied the British and Hindu psyche, demanded Partition and got it."

It is the muslims and christians who believe in their fascist superiority and their inherent or God-given right to practise religious colonialism by "conversion/cultural assaults"

ANOTHER SEWER LEVEL FASCIST LIE BY A SPIN MISTRESS TO DEMONIZE BRAHMINS/CASTE SYSTEM THAT IS PREVALENT IN FAKISTAN [AND CONVERTED DALITS] too, acg to Fareena:

"In Europe, it is the the middle classes, consisting of the craftsmen ("Shudra") and the traders ("Vaisya") of that society, who overthrew the meritless dominance of the clergy ("Brahmin") and the aristocracy ("Kshatriya"), to herald the Industrial Revolution!"

How could there have been Industrial Revolution sans engineers and scientists [called knowledge workers these days] who were like Brahmins of yore, Susrutha, Bhaskara and modern age Dr C.V. Raman, Dr K.S. Krishnan, Dr S. Chandrasekhar, .. ? All down the ages, the blue collar workers **supported** the while collar knowledge workers! Even teen-agers know this!
Brahmins now do want every job filled by merit not in the name of caste or religion. You now have a blatant reverse discrimination that even our Blacks don’t enjoy by way of any QUOTA system. Bush has been very vocal against all quota systems here in USA.

Jinnah was instrumental in institutionalizing his campaign of savage terror that he called DIRECT ACTION [unleashed in fakistan too after dismemberment] and other mafia antics that is used even currently to hold up the neo-colonial [i.e. neo-mogul colonial] barbaric power
to date. One of his cunning tricks was to ask for more than reasonable and then get exactly what he wanted.

THUS, HE WANTED ONE *THIRD* SEATS THOUGH MUSLIMS WERE ONLY 25% AND GOT SEPARATE HOMELAND AND DUMPED 100+ MILLION CRIMINAL BURDEN ON INDIAN AS WELL PERMANENTLY. WHAT AN EVIL BUT SUCCESSFUL TRICK! HITLER WAS NOT
SO SUBTLY EVIL BUT CRUDELY SO!..! Sadly, neo-nazism and apartheid type neo-colonialism [whereby minority rule the majority by brute force] continues to this day in India and you have dangerous p-secs to keep it alive!

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Posted by Fareena Raza on Sep 6, 2005

Thanks Miriam for your commendations! I feel proud of my problem-solving skills using my creative genius!! In fact, it is long over-due and I sincerely hope it is implemented soon. It could have saved literally millions of lives.

All for the larger good of the majority of peace loving Indians and in the long term interests of India as a whole! And indeed for the peace, stability and collective prosperity of all Indians...Bye for now!!


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Posted by Miriam the Jew on Sep 6, 2005

Here is "a grand plan to stop all violence against Hindus - please work on implementing that [M. Nam]":
It is a darn good idea (thanks to Ms Raza) that giving temporary guest worker **visa** to all muslims left dumped on India
if they have a crime-free record.

"Here is the best plan of the millennium to end all savage violence that continues to make more Hindu victims of islamist religious hatred in India:
Vis-a-vis our Hindu hosts, we the guest muslim benefiaries should have little difficulty in shaping up
* in order to turn in the jihadi criminals amongst us and
* to adequately compensate our host Hindus for all the atrocities of the past several decades;
* to decrease our population to the 1947 level; etc
at the **minimum** or accept temporary guest worker visa from the Indian Government until the above conditions are met or until we get settled in one of the 60 odd islamic nations."

Thanks to Ms Fareena Raza, you now have a well-thought out plan to end the cycle of violence that is re-ignited time and again by the murderous muslim villains
like in Godhra. [Hindus continue to be persistently attacked savagely year after year over the last several centuries, leave alone deaths of ten
for the foul remarks of Jerry Falwell in USA, thousands of miles away or constant **stoning/lynching** of Ganesh stree festivities]
[I like this statement,
"While the Devas read Hindus], because of their inherent nature primarily do good, the Asuras [read muslims] seem to worship
the trinity in order to gain power and try and rule the world. Does that sound familiar?" Sounds like Hindu-Muslims, doesn't it?]

I like the most these quotes,
"Demand of jobs for our Dalits after conversion only exposes that Dalit muslims/christians remain outcast as poor, abused and lowly! Recently, the lower caste Mai was gang-raped when her brother was suspected to have done something to an upper-caste woman in PAKISTAN where there is supposedly NO CASTE SYSTEM AT ALL."
and
"But as far as the government doling out freebies to members of any particular religious group is unacceptable. That includes reservations for minorities; reservations based on caste, etc."

College reservation for Dalit Hindus is the only acceptable preference. Or else, you need to agree with JeeQ, ".. the fourth type of Secularism is India's SICKularism aka SUCKularism."

What everyone needs to be interested in, must be helping save lives - no matter what his/her religion is. That currently criminals lives being valued more than the Hindu lives is totally unacceptable. You must insist on zero-tolerance on violence, especially by muslims **historically addicted** to violence like in, Ganesh festivity or JERRY FALWELL or Moplah cases.

How it was ignited by the savage islamists is seen here, "Influx of Hindus from Pakistan who were uprooted and who had suffered killings of relatives, abduction and rape of women and looting of their belongings had created an explosive situation. Local Hindus who were outraged by the treatment meted out to their Hindu brethren .."

Nothing has changed for Hindus - after colonialism, now you have neo-colonialism, "it shows to what extent blind non-violence has permeated the Hindu mind. They have retained their culture, language etc all throughout without any special laws/benefits because they were a minority. The Tamil majority has neither dominated them, nor been dominate... It was to be used only against violent tyrants who could not be reached for debate or who would not come out on the battlefield to fight. It was never used against a non-violent person, no matter how radical his or her views were....
this is not to say that the British and Mughals were good for Hindus. Indeed, Hindus suffered the most under them – much more than they suffered under Sunnis and Catholics."

How does the model of Mr Nam figure in, the one sided violence and cultural assault by your minority? Is it by devilish 'Enforcer'? How is the Hindu non-response mostly figured in?

Again, to stop the hogwash of 'minority dominance and minority preference' by mafia tactics, you better give soon "guest worker visa" to all good muslims till their population goes down to 1947 level! Or else, only muslim ignition/start of violence and multiple revenge will continue.

Boycott their business till you achieve your goals!! Power to the noble and gracious Hindus!!!
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Posted by Munir.Akram on Sep 5, 2005

Begum Raza, I like you and others like you who support and butress M. Nam's theoretical framework with present day examples, concrete and clear proofs as evidence of continuing inequality that started with islamic invasion and two major colonial periods through this current neo-colonial rule by the Congress party.

Lack of equity and equality is indeed rupturing the social fabric of India, notwithstanding the myopic/short-sighted wild comments by a few uncaring individuals.

Please keep up the good work. I do think you are onto something positive when you suggested work permits for all the muslims left dumped on India. Other option is annual monetary compensation from the pakkis, by linking it to the Kashmir issue.


Posted by Fareena Raza on Sep 5, 2005

Rudra-ji, Serious "academic discussion" is best done in an university setting.
Those are largely fruitless, being ineffective to solve any practical problem as the set of problems ongoing violence, lack of rule-of-law and social order is. Bollywood related crimes alone are legendary. You are apparently ignoring Pakistan's infiltrators, talking dreamy Hindu metaphysics all day, with nothing better to do. I welcome those posts of Seetha-ji as it is a big service to the nation full of very many disgraced and despicable anti-Indians, including violent naxals and communists.

If you like anarchy, that is fine. Your head in the clouds arm-chair theory is surely not going to yield any solution. You may be liked by anti-Indians whose agenda is further ruining of India as you too are either indifferent or indirectly causal to such ruin. Is this your enlightened position or stand, as an evolved elite of India?


Mr Nam, I suppose this time you have to go, re-read the postings of Miriam, Seetha-ji and others you refer. They have been mostly talking of inexplicable and repeated violence against the Hindus (as was true in Moplah large scale butchery and slaughter) on a continuing basis for reasons totally unrelated to them like in the case of an American, Jerry Falwell talking ill of Islam. (Sadly, Hindutvadis being too tolerant and patient, have done little or nothing to prevent such savage violence).

Seetja-ji even was bold and clear, when she lamented that, "THIS SHOWS US HOW UNPREPARED WE ARE FOR A CONITNUING SAVAGE ATTACKS."

I too found some back postings on temple destruction. You would agree such desruction in the present day is totally unacceptable. Hence, their evidentiary posts showing concrete proofs are still **current** and relevant to your reference to temple destruction of the historic past. Only I talked of gang rape based on **casteism** in Islamic Pakistan!

There was not even implicit tussle between Protestants and Catholics in allied attack on Axis powers, as you say "how the Protestant forces of America and Britain decimated the forces of the Catholic Hitler and Mussolini. The sphere too, when organized with a purpose, can be far more lethal than imagined,” though complicity of the catholic church and pope has long been suspected in nazi invasions and holocaust.


Like Hindi-Chini bhai bhai days of the mid 50s that got Indians only betrayal,
bhai-bhai warm attitudes and showering of privileges to muslims left behind by Pakistan
has resulted in betrayal of the host culture, namely the Hindus.

Onslaught like this one like what SEETHA-JI presented does not augur well for
inter-communal relationships that might not be sustainable any longer:
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Conversions continue to be rampant: Hindu leader NT Bureau Chennai, July 9:

'It is time for Hindus to safeguard themselves from the onslaught of religious conversions, which are rampant in the country. For instance, in the southern district of Kanniyakumari, nearly 45 per cent of the population has been 'successfully' converted to Christianity, while in the last few days, a total of 24 idols of Hindu gods and goddesses have been vandalised in the district', Hindu Munnani founder Rama Gopalan has said. Speaking to devotees during his visit to the Periyamalai Balamurugan temple in Pallavaram Wednesday, where the presiding deity of Goddess Dakshayini was destroyed by 'unidentified miscreants', a few days ago, Rama Gopalan, expressing his anguish at the incident, said, it was a barbaric act aimed at creating confusion among the people.

'The attacks on Hindu deities have increased in the recent days and Hindus are left with no other option but to safeguard themselves. Whoever had committed this shameful act should be brought to book irrespective of his caste or creed,' he said. He also warned that the Hindu Munnnani volunteers would stage protests if the perpetrators of the violence are not nabbed immediately.

Many residents of the area adjoining Periyamalai Balamurugan temple have pointed fingers at a Christian group that was 'notoriously active' in the area and also on a few Pentecost groups that thronged the hill every night to carry out prayers.

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In India, "Serial mass murders and conversion assaults" have been happening for ages when Hindus have been victims of religious hatred of the muslims and christians; ten deaths for distant remarks of Jerry Falwell is but one perfect example that shows they indeed have excessive rights and no accountability at all period.
If there were any evidence of 'good' humane muslims during their seven hundred years of occupation of India,

1. Public safety won't be the over riding security concern of the civil society of India now;

2. They would have not given sanctuaries and material support to Ishrat type criminal mafia;

3. They would not allow any murder, rape or abduction of Hindus for even one more day; (Too many have been occurring routinely including MARAD, GODHRA..etc)

4. Given away mosques built on Hindu temple lands being the legitimate rights of the Hindus;

5. They shall eliminate hate speeches in mosques; and vacated one of their universities to Dalits;

6. They shall fight for Hindutva as the legitimate rights of native majority people;

7. They would been liked, trusted and even respected by Hindus both as individuals and as a group.

On the contrary, bigoted passion is currently ruling the islamist minds - similarly, fascist politics is paralyzing them rather than morally right principles that might be expected of a "good" and responsible muslim 'citizen';
all starting from Khilafat massacre, continued through Naokali riots in pre-1947 puppetteered by Jinah's and evil days.

Israel uses raids, demolition of homes, targeted assassination...etc as a tool to root out terrorism. Check points, curfew, fencing, denial of water, rejection of citizenship papers and permits are other forms of collective punishment, they use. India has not even RAIDED to investigate GODHRA an arsonist savage killing of innocent women and children trapped in a train car. Contrast that with the American response to the same type of arsonist murder of **four** Americans in Iraq in Falujah.

Every time, the Hindus do not react or respond adequately to the heinous atrocities perpetrated on them, they are allowing setting of adverse precedents, sending a bad message that it is ok to kill serially and rape and pillage...etc.

Again, the cause might be that the Hindu elite including those in VHP/BHP is too patient or too tolerant. With no protests, this goes on and on. How else can you explain so many decades of fascist attacks after 1947 and so many centuries of brutal colonial barbarism before 47? To repeat, if you do not have even the self-preserving instincts, you are most likely to be killed and walked over too. Especially your women are the most vulnerable, easy targets "to bed with" to quote one of the Bollywood Khans.

Indian economy might be and might have been better served if the minority population worked well with the native cultures. Self-destructing Inhumane muslims and Christians with no loyalty to the nation, are working to destroy their own power base by constantly undermining the civil society. All this is sure to come back to haunt them down the road.

Thus, the leftists like Anand Nair could have prevented the worst types of exploitation like by corporate crooks like ENRON, AMWAY, COCO COLA,
COLGATE..ETC AND SHODDY FORD OR HUYNDAI, AND EVIL PRODUCTS LIKE CIGARETTES AND LIQUOR AND OPIUM
BASED NARCOTICS. The inhumane anti-Hindus could better be fostering ties with Libya or Central Asia to get better oil deals with Ghadaffi or Irani Ayatollahs and get paid for the pirated Bollywood movies instead of losing it by way of piracy of the vulgar pakkis and so on.

All this leads one to conclude there are no 'good' humane muslims or Christians that matter to strengthen either democracy or secularism. If there are any left, they do not make any significant difference in stabilizing the economy, social fabric or the body politics or they are to be found in significant numbers if at all existent in some nook.
and to conclude that nothing has changed for the Hindus. They have neither safety nor security never mind autonomy or self-rule.

This is what I want to tell my fellow muslims. Our Hindu hosts have been our most reliable friends for several centuries. If we can be friendly, lawful and helpful citizens, this bond may continue. Badly managed, it can become a very dangerous downward trend indeed. At least the choice seems to be ours. Confidence-building measures by generous unconditional offer of priceless Indian citizenship to all of us without exceptions in 1947 has always come from our hosts.

Looking at it cynically, we have been paranoid about Hindutva re-assertion of their rights to self-determination
in their ancient homeland. We need to re-affirm of our commitment to rule by the majority, commonly called democratic government by legitimate and credible reps of the vast majority of masses, the BJP. The present condition of minority being separate and more than equal cannot wash any longer. This day in Sept. 1st, Katrina messages say 'looters will be shot!' Hinuds are yet to say that; but soon might.

Vis-a-vis our Hindu hosts, we the guest muslim benefiaries should have little difficulty in shaping up
* in order to turn in the jihadi criminals amongst us and
* to adequately compensate our host HIndus for all the atrocities of the past several decades;
* to decrease our population to the 1947 level; etc
at the **minimum** or accept temporary guest worker visa from the Indian Government until the above conditions are met or until we get settled in one of the 60 odd islamic nations.

Demand of jobs for our Dalits after conversion only exposes that Dalit muslims/christians remain outcast as poor, abused and lowly! Recently, the lower caste Mai was gang-raped when her brother was suspected to have doen soemthing to an upper-caste woman in PAKISTAN where there is supposedly NO CASTE SYSTEM AT ALL.

What a sad commentary on the egalitariam Islam!!!!!!!
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Gang Rape for 'Honor'
In June this year, in remote Meerwala village, 610 kms from the capital Islamabad, young Mukhtiar Mai wept and pleaded for mercy when she heard the verdict. But the 18-year-old was dragged into a mud hut and gang raped, while a crowd of a few hundred stood outside.

The ordeal of the impoverished lower caste Gujjar family started ..the boy's father, was told to bring one of his five daughters - failing which all the women in his family would be raped. With no option left, Farid brought Mukhtiar, his eldest daughter, to bear the brunt of the verdict.
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Both we muslims and the christians should know that the willingness of the rest of the majoriy Indians to accept us as part of the Indian citizenry (then in 1947 and now too) inspite of many evil deeds and anti-national activities - the minor example being population explosion, conversion assaults, land grab for burial, abuse of Dalits hiding behind them, ..etc perhaps the mildest of all such activities - is indeed admirable.

We have been the main source and major cause of hundreds of recurring national crises. (For example, despite there was no private gain for Hon Sri Modi Sahib, well-orchestrated campaign of disinformation, we unleashed against him maligning his valiant attempts discrediting his early end to stop killings post-Godhra despite denial of help from Kalam whose foot-soldiers were trickily held back for a long time).

Is this not evidence of a criminal mind-set at the maximum and disgraceful attitude at the minium among the minority? PS: the danger from p-secs is *no less* when they tell us that they have the Hindu interests in their minds and only they got it "correct", whereas thinking of all other Hindus is flawed, (to use his own words).

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Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Sep 5, 2005

Sri Rao-ji, I agree 100% with you when you say
"There is plenty of evidence that the following type of historic islamist addiction to barbaric violence continues to this day- "The earliest Muslim invasions into India were mostly entirely Sunni and their behavior was primarily limited to looting, genocide, temple destruction, rape and forced conversions" ... "egregious and horrendous deaths of ten for something quite **unrelated** to India and Hindus "...etc.

I have given clear and concrete evidence that overwhelmingly shows that
while good and noble types of Hinduism like Hon Sri Modi, Sri Doctor Togadia, Most Venereable Mata -ji, are doing excellent HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST WORK puttting themselves exposed to the savage risks, barbaric campaign of violence, including destruction of temples still goes on.

While our awareness is increasing, our reaction to their organized savage attacks in terms of rapes, serial mass murders, led by the minority party's fundamentalist totalitarian regime, is less than mild - I see not even a feeble boycott campaign


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Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Sep 5, 2005

While good and noble types of HInduism like Hon Sri Modi, Sri Doctor Togdia, Most Venereable Mata -ji, savage campaign of violence is ongoing including destruciton of temples:


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Temples often attacked or robbed
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Burglars decamp with lingam from a temple

Tiruchirappalli, Dec 4: The top portion of the siva lingam was found stolen from a temple atop a hillock at Tiruengoyimalai near Musiri about 40 kms here, police said.
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4 idols, ornaments stolen from temple

Coimbatore, Nov 5: Four panchaloha idols, some ornaments and pooja articles were stolen from a temple near Tirupur here.
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Two idols, valuables looted from temple

Coimbatore, Feb 19: Two "panchaloha" idols, silver ornaments and other valuables were looted from a temple near Sulur, on the outskirts, today.
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TN temple theft: Gang held in Kerala

Kochi, Dec 27: A nine-member gang, which stole three panchaloha idols and a panchaloha crown from a temple in Tamil Nadu September 4, was arrested here today, police said.
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Shiva idol stolen at Kerela
Kanhangad (Kerala)
The main idol of the Shiva temple here was found stolen early Monday morning, police said. The over 200-year-old panchaloha (of five metals) idol of lord Shiva, weighing 8 kg, was stolen after the door of the sanctum sanctorum of the Poonkavu Karpooreshwara temple was broken open by thieves.

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Panchaloha idols worth Rs 10 lakh stolen

Kannur, Sept 1: Two panchaloha idols were stolen from the Nuchyad Bhagavati Amman temple near Ulikkal in the early hours today, police said. __________________________________________________________
Now Europe is waking up with Theo van Gogh's murder and shows revenge in the same vein is what can teach them, revenge that resulted in burning of many mosques and schools. Such violence is never good and we are always too tolerant and yet getting too poor an image.

In India, "On the contrary, they [the jihadi politicians] built an atmosphere of mistrust between minorities and majority community by insinuating imaginary fears so as to nurture minorities into their vote bank. Due to political appeasement these vote banks have preferred to live as minorities, leaned on state protection seeking more benefits
through separate personnel laws and reservation. The sect leaders and clergymen not only strengthened their communal feelings but went to the extent of seeking emotional support from neighboring theocratic states to perpetuate terrorist activities on Indian soil. The recent pronouncements of Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid should caution the over secularist lobby in India. However, they are still trying to find excuse to prosecute Bal Thackery for his nationalism!

It is well known that illegal immigration is taking place in all the Border States where the minority groups shelter migrants, drug peddlers and infiltrators. Any attempt to flush out illegal migrants is resisted by unpatriotic political leaders throbbing on minority vote banks in the name of secularism. Can't we foresee that tomorrow-illegal migrants will demand separate ethnic identities and homeland with the support from foreign powers like NATO intervention in Yugoslavia?

With every day passing the situation is getting from bad to worse. The recent trend is reflected through frequent alignments of heterogeneous political parties trying to create political instability to retard
country's march towards progress. In the guise of preserving 'secularism' the forces actually propagating and practicing casteism and communalism have emerged as power brokers. Politicians are vying with each other to flatter minorities by bartering the interests of majority community to seek their electoral support in elections."

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September 03, 2005 Jihadists: "Allah punished New Orleans"
Walid Phares “allahu daraba al kafireen wal fasiqeen fi new orleen, wallahu daraba al mushrekeen el shiia fil iraq”
“Allah hit the infidels and the depraved in New Orleans, and Allah hit the Shiia apostate in Iraq.”
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Muslim missionaries questioned in terrorism probe
By Kelly Hearn THE WASHINGTON TIMES September 4, 2005

BUENOS AIRES -- Police have briefly detained dozens of Muslim missionaries from the Arab world and South Asia in recent months, acting on tips from Spanish and Italian officials investigating terrorist attacks in Europe.
Argentine newspapers reported that 26 members of Jamaat Tabligh, an Islamic missionary sect, had been held,
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Actor Sanjay Dutt allowed to go for shooting

Mumbai, Nov 6: A special court today exempted 85 accused in 1993 bomb blast case, including Bollywood star Sanjay Dutt, from personal appearance till December 2 and also allowed the actor to go to Kolkata for a month from November 11 for shooting.

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ FRIDAY, JANUARY 21, 2005 11:20:20 PM ]
NEW DELHI: For criminals, terrorists and other offenders in India, global escape routes are slowly being squeezed and the world is getting less hospitable for them.

For people fleeing the Indian judicial system, like Bollywood music director Nadeem — who protested against returning to India on the grounds that he would be persecuted, this new provision might mean such appeals would have to be made from outside UK.
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"Instead of accountability, IMs (islamists left dumped on India) were given a free pass and worse, pandered to, by the Indian p-sec establishment, and the results were the Mumbai bombings, Kashmir, Godhra, Marad, and more." Hurl abuses only on M.Nam; for, only he can take it with composur. and only he can continue researching, when train coaches burn with the weakest innocents inside them! Of course, only the anti-Hindus can watch temple desecration with a smile!!

FINALLY - THIS SHOWS US HOW UNPREPARED WE ARE FOR A CONTINUING SAVAGE ATTACKS. So boycott and protest method is much better.

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Posted by KT.Rao on Sep 5, 2005

There is plenty of evidence that the following type of historic islamist addiction to barbaric violence continues to this day- "The earliest Muslim invasions into India were mostly entirely Sunni and their behavior was primarily limited to looting, genocide, temple destruction, rape and forced conversions"
not only "egregious and horrendous deaths of ten for something quite unrelated to India and Hindus - bad mouthing of islam by JERRY FALWELL; etc." but also shaking the so-called peaceful SOUTH that was rocked by ".. the serial blasts in Coimbatore, which killed over 60 people during Mr L.K. Advani’s electioneering in February 1998..." and the MARAD slaughter - that ppl like zoo al-Hindi zafar and deepsh*it dp rationalize - to the laurels of fellow vulgar type brutes who are also darn dishonest to the core!!

MNam, Does that mean no "alien culture" or no tricky views like p-secularism and p-democracy will be thrust on all of us, no ban on Hon Sri Togadia to move freely in his own country or speak his mind freely, no expectations of cultural homogeneity by catholic and arabic conversion mafia, no force to learn this or that language like urdu or arabic in madrasas, finally,
[Hurrah!] no sharia binding muslim women to eternal hell allowing them to date us ! That is wonderful. No one would object, I am sure.

Once it was Proud Hindu who asked zoo zafar that kuran is so militaristic that it even prescribes how to enter one's wife and ie what MNam has so wisely has captured-
"For any other behavior that is necessary for his day to day existence, he has to depend on specific instructions from the Enforcer – be it the Pope, or State or Mullah or Caliph, via a holy book, be it the Koran, Hadith, Bible etc. How many wives can one have? How to beat a recalcitrant wife?"

including instructions from the Enforcer if the public should pray in Latin or in local tongues or how many babies the family should plan for.

Thanks to traitors like nair and imposter 'indians' like bin-zafar who betray us at every chance, chauvinistic fantasies of pan-islamic caliphate is being propagandaized whether the duality of non-believer/believer social boundary is accepting or not.

What Seetha-ji calls "whimsical savagery" in this final q of akram dude-
"how do you explain vigillante justice whereby pakki and muslims left behind in Hindustan go on a killing spree at the slightest pretext - say, for the foul words of a distant christian Jerry Falwell in farway USA or shadow of a street carried Durga's statue falling on a mosque or pig running by a mosque?" is yet to be answered by anyone including pacifist humanist scholar, MNam, or anti-Hindu jihadi gangs here who continue to encourage jihadi violence both directly and indirectly.

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Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Sep 4, 2005

Munir Bhai, The cases of those savage attacks in your real life examples had no iota of justice - let alone vigilante (spelling?) justice. They were whimsical savagery purely based on virtually unlimited privileges that barbaric muslims of India have had all these centuries.

They even control what and how we think too, by a sewer full of wild lies too and mind games by the appointed multitude of journalists like mj akbar, seema musafa, etc. (ie why they called GODHRA carnage as 'incident' and our feeble postGodhra counter-terrorism mild attempt as 'genocide' - all part of their mind-game!!!!!!!) The christians who played themselves right into the hands of these savages, sleezily got Sriman Honorouble Modi-ji's visit aborted. Ie how they prop up 3rd rate actors like the different khans when mega stars like Vivek Oberoi and Shakti Kapoor have been most cunningly side-lined and even scoffed off. Mind games is just one of a number of different tactics they use, to amass wealth of the back of our poor masses. In return, we get more savage violence.

One result is the we-they polarisation manipulated by wily islamists like kalam who called BJP as communalists that has
easily be pitched one against the other "as hostile warring groups on an all-India basis by letting their religious identity overwhelm all other identities."

Another result is what you see as a spectre of macabre riots after riots almost every year. Number of rapes might be way beyond any official count. That many supporters of their hate idealogy feverishly spread more lies means that the Deobandhis and Tabl.. or whatever are not fringe loony groups either.

A third result is conversion assault targeting and preying on the most vulberable amongst us.

Conversion/evangelism means imposition of your 'superior' faith on me by sales and marketing tactics. It doesn't end there.

It next takes the form of several unending demands:=
A. job reservation throwing meritocracy to the winds and seizing what is rightly some deserving Dalit or meritorious Hindu;
B. robbing of more and more land for burial unlike Hindus who cremate/burn;
C. population explosion and number politics;
D. libellous scandalising of India overseas by denigrating India's image;
E. *worst* of all, continuing serial mass savage murders, physical and verbal abuse and rapes;
F. mafia type trafficking in women, guns, drugs, counterfeit, children, ..etc.
G. abduction, extortion, intimidation, ..etc.
H. Using the converted mass in the next election for vote bank politics to seizwe more power;

This vicious cycle has gone on endlessly over the last several decades.


If we consider them as one of us in terms of what we assume we know about them, "their beliefs, their tendencies and intentions", we are grossly wrong. They consider us as inferior/ghulams fit only to be ruled and/or ridiculed.
Sadly, it is well past the stage of tender love of many centuries and tough love of BJP years. Dialog never worked and there is every sign, it will never will, unless... Unless and until the justice is served by crack down and sweep of every mosque and even muslim homes to mop up arsenals like swords they in Marad mosque, Kerala.

I don't see any reason to agree with MNam on this,
"even the most communal Hindus who hate Muslims recognise that a person who does justice to his Varna should be encouraged. This is Hinduism's greatest strength."

Exact opposite, that is not our strength; our niceness has been taken as weakness and ie why barbaric muslim savagery has not ended and their usurpation of jobs from Dalits (and such grab and number politics) is getting even worse.

There is ample reason to worry how soon these savage bigots would take over our country and make it a pan-islamic caliphate [ie their agenda and that of their savage pakki fascist honchos across the borders].

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Posted by Moor Nam on Sep 4, 2

Pakistan values a book more than a human life. That is how millions have died by its war-mongering and grab policy centered on Kashmir and fascist domination over India where its agents raid our towns and cities including Ayodhya..




Posted by Munir.Akram on Sep 4, 2005

Miriam, As someone said, "The distance between between Islam and Gandhism is 100 light years"
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I LIKED YOUR WORDS:=
"That your minority have been indulging in anti-Hindu and anti-national activities too long has been the thesis that was backed up with published facts by Mr Akram. What more concrete evidence do you need for the downward spiral India is facing ...
1. with 50% of the masses poor and impoverished?
2. With pakki driven naxal and muslim violence being unabated?
3. With conversion assaults continuing year after year?
4. With ruling politicians getting ever more unlawful in plundering the nation, even your Supreme Court being prejudiced and discriminatory against you?"
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But you forgot to mention the arab connection as here:=
++++"CUDDALORE, OCT. 28. The Cuddalore police claim to have busted a fundamentalist outfit — Manitha Neethi Pasarai (MNP) located at Nellikuppam — which has been allegedly converting Dalits into Islam and imparting training to them in handling weapons and martial arts. The police have rounded up 15 persons... and seized from them long sickles, **foreign-made**daggers, cellphones (one having Arabic names and numerals), audio and video cassettes, an amplifier, a binocular, a camera, digital diaries, incriminating documents and Rs. 85,000 (in the denomination of Rs. 500). But the masterminds, Khaja Mohideen (45) of Neyveli and Abdul Khani of Keezhakarai have escaped."

This happened a few months ago and notably conversion criminals were found to have **weapons** and some escaped.
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Another gruesome abrahamic/catholic holocaust of recent days cannot be explained by your theory and diagrams:=

Here is the old monster of the Inquisition and the Jesuit massacres of Peru and Colombia BACK, and they are now in the heart of Africa. It is beyond thinking that these servants of the Vatican could do such mindless acts. You readers who are so ignorant as to think that the old Whore of Rome has changed her ways, read and meditate please. Once a Whore, always a Whore, whether in collusion with Franco, "Dux" Mussolini, Hitler, or the Hutu terrorists.

Evil Christians By Elizabeth Neuffer Globe Staff, 12/12/96 Reprinted from The Boston Globe
http://www.ebeneezer.net/main/special/christian/xtian.html
Reprinted from The Boston Globe
So when the Hutu-led militia began killing Rwanda's Tutsi minority in 1994, thousands fled here, expecting refuge.
[BAD NUN]
Sister Bernadette Mukarusine is accused of aiding the Hutu and failing to shelter Tutsi refugees when fighting began in 1994. (GLOBE PHOTO / THOMAS JAMES HURST)
Instead, they met their death. A local priest, Rev. Athanase Serumba, is accused by survivors of having urged on Hutu soldiers attacking the church, and of then ordering the church bulldozed to the ground with bodies and some wounded inside.
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"No other nation has such a poor standard of politics because of mosque and church interference in its elections. Where is secularism or democracy in India? Does the majority rule India?

All the *fascists* are among the Indian minority - islamist vulgar brutes and swindling christians! Iraq is beginning to see savage attacks that India has been witnessing zillion times over many centuries to this day all over the nation. Read following news that would convince you to stop ongoing islamic barbarism!"

Twin blasts of and serial blasts in Bombay may not have been on a pogrom scale but they were well planned and coordinated - similarly every single savage attack that caused even one death like the death of RSS activists in W Bengal, Rajasthan and Kerala. ..etc. in the **very recent** weeks.

VERY MANY RIOTS HAVE OFTEN GONE UNREPORTED AND NOTABLY, POST BABRI TYPE SAVAGERY UNDER-REPORTED. AND MOST HAVE GONE UNPUNISHED TOO.

MIRIAM, WHY ARE THE ISLAMISTS SO GREEDY WORSE THAN THE WORST JEWS? Ref:=
"The Muslim businessmen in Panwad are affluent and many were engaged in moneylending at interest rates ranging between 60 to 120%."
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ONE GOOD QUESTION:=
Georgia had rose revolution.
Lebanon had cider revolution.
Ukraine had orange revolution.
How about a lotus or saffron revolution in India, M. NAM?
[You are demanding your freedom and you will have it!]


One final q:=
how do you explain vigillante justice whereby pakki and muslims left behind in Hindustan go on a killing spree at the slightest pretext - say, for the foul words of a distant christian Jerry Falwell in farway USA or shadow of a street carried Durga's statue falling on a mosque or pig running by a mosque?


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Posted by Miriam the Jew on Sep 4, 2005

In practical terms, withering away of violent islamists cant happen easily as long as the anti-Hindu pakkis are behind most hate-mongering thuggery and they cant think straight, causing most of the communal animosity prevailing there - in turn, causing precarious safety and economic conditions [arising from their war-mongering arms-race] with close to 50% poor and impoverished at this point in time.

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Posted by Miriam the Jew on Sep 4, 2005

Withering away of violent islamists can happen if there is no public support, absence of ignorant masses and wealth base. I think both Munir Akram and M. Nam meant this, former in terms of boycott, latter unfettered exploitation of the masses by the mullahs, government doing nothing about it [this is changing in UK where they are being kicked out or closely watched; in India, if this is desperately needed that might expose several arms caches].

Perhaps because the anti-Hindus' bigoted mind is playing tricks with them they cant thing straight and causes most of the communal animosity prevailing there and in turn precarious safety and economic conditions with close to 50% poor and impoversihed today.

Their prejudice against everything Hindu [read Indians] is so deep rooted, it is nearly impossible to get any meaningful and decent discussion going.

This is what I wrote way back,
"Part of what is going on with Gandhi's manipulative legacy was perhaps rooted and scripted in South African homes of the muslims that Gandhi frequented. Evidence is needed for the theory that the plot was hatched there; some might suspect Gandhi's use of the islamist word 'Khaffir' often against the local blacks and everything...(With 350 Years of Muslim Presence in South Africa, they are as powerful there as in India - go to http://www.jamiat.co.za/arrasheed/ar0801/350_years_of_muslims_in_south_africa.htm)
When he got off the ship from Africa, he had already thrown his western attire and had become a half-naked fakir - a Bollywood type drama in the making!!

That is why he condoned and not condemned savage violence against his fellow Hindus (and not even worms turn against their own kind). Referring to,
"A truly conceited man (someone called him a "publicist and a populist") with not even
1. basic humanity or 2. common decency," I must say that he was merely a puppet in the hands of the muslim puppeteers and his talk about searching for truth was inspite of the automaton he had been made into, scripted or programmed in his African days. There was not much truth or justice in what he promoted - brazen barbaric savagery by muslim villains.

(South African muslims are some of the richest:
"..These are difficult times for the ANC. In a separate scandal last week Jacob Zuma, the deputy president and Mr Mbeki's heir apparent, suffered the embarrassment of seeing a close friend and financial adviser,
Shabir Shaik, [another greedy UNLAWFUL MUSLIM] convicted of corruption. A court found "overwhelming evidence" that the relationship between the men was corrupt.

The verdict prompted renewed calls for Mr Zuma's resignation and deepened the sense that South Africa's political masters are little better than its previous ones...).."
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Finally, it is the Abrahamics who talk about 'pure' this, 'pure' that, a sort of language only Nazis were notorious for. [In this context, it is the the uncivil pakkis who sought to make 'pakistan' as the land of the pure!]

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Posted by Munir.Akram on Sep 3, 2005

JeeQ Bhai, Should one say your glorification of violence is repulsive and revulsive, as you dance around the issue with these words:
"ACTION is necessary and violence is sanctioned if there is no other recourse"?!

Maybe, Martyr [Shahid] the Most Honourable Godse took 'your type' of words too seriously to heart and eliminated a man who was preaching idle watching of serial mass murders of loved ones year after year, century after century by greedy, wily and sleezy islamist fascists.

In the light of society approved state revenge murders by prison hangings or electric chair, violence goes on even by state actors in the name of penal code punishment. Henc,e Godse's violence might well be justified, when state failed to hold back an evil man. It was that evil man who was behind now institutionalized occasions of serial mass murders over several decades of his life, especially by Jinah's sadists killers. Most of those crimes and the similar ones happening **now** are going largely unpunished, mostly unreported and evidently unrecorded for all eternity.

In that vein, Babri pogrom sequel is not highlighted while post-Godhra is so stressed beyond anyone's imagination with all sorts of lies, ignoring it was again re-ignited by the same criminals who committed Godhra even while the survivors were returning from the Hindu cremation ground.

Such is the intensity, scale and scope of continued violence and cover-up in the present day India from his legacy that people of your ilk fail to even grasp it to this day - the evil nature of the shadowy, dark anti-Hindu forces that **outsourced** serial mass murders in AP to topple BJP government to the naxals - basically by mafia type contract killings [similar type goes on by so-called maoist slaves of pakki fascists in Nepal].

Such is the evil legacy of gandhi, the muslim puppet. Gandhi not only said 'let them' but kept saying it, though he was **supposed** to be a mature adult at the ripe old age of 79 or whatever [he was not surely 29 or 39!].

Can you imagine one man like gandhi deciding the destiny of all the rest in any other country like UK/USA with absolutely no scope of counter-argument or checks and balances or with no one challenging him merely because of his pre-eminent cult status with everyone worshipping him as another Hindu deity?

Note- We have such deities even now in the seat of Rashtrapati, and in persons of bollywood khans, premji..etc and state actor m.s. aiyar who is deciding on behalf of one billion how quickly all the billions are to be spent on oil pipeline mega-project]. God save Mother India!..!

Posted by Munir.Akram on Sep 14, 2005

Worst of all, every Hindu must always keep in mind that abrahamic religions are
A. expansionist as they use religious colonialism and fascist imperialism;
B. fascist as they ridicule and scorne local/native cultures, thinking theirs is the most superior idealogy;
C. anti-nationals, as they foul mouth India's prestige in every Intl Forum;
D. greedy and dishonest as they use "webs of mass deception, deceit and denial" to grab ever more hijacking every secular and democratic process and subverting every noble soul to their medieval fiefdoms;
E. corruptive as they abuse every legal process and norm to their advantage.

Equally vicious are these facts:= They take lands after death for burial, dont allow reversal to original faith once converted, use skin colour as weapon to discriminate/abuse like in Darfur next to Sudan, have been notorious for church rapes of minors or gang-rapes for honour [!] as in fakistan...etc.

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Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Sep 11, 2005

Casteism has long been used to malign and demonise us by our hate-mongering anti-nationals. Many here have shown casteism or a form of it as class-ism like in Katrina storm affected USA, is prevalent in every nation on earth. Such phony arguments making us victims of religious hatred and violence cannto any longer go on, if we say loudly casteism is our internal issue and you have it too and if you dont like our country, you can very well ship out. Evidence of such bold policy is documented here:
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Islamists, Get Out
Full text of the article:
Islamists, Get Out by Daniel Pipes New York Sun August 30, 2005

Australia's education minister, Brendan Nelson, also on August 24 urged immigrants to "commit to the Australian constitution, Australian rule of law." If not, "they can basically clear off." Geert Wilders, head of his own small party in the Dutch parliament, similarly called for the expulsion of non-citizen immigrants who refuse to integrate.

But it was the British shadow defense minister, Gerald Howarth, who went the furthest, suggesting in early August that all British Islamists must go. "If they don't like our way of life, there is a simple remedy: Go to another country, get out." He directed this principle even to Islamists born in Britain, as were three of the four London bombers: "If you don't give allegiance to this country, then leave."
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Thanks to the phony mahatma, Gandhi, India with minimal Hinduism is the only nation where the perverse discrimination against majority Hindu population has been systematically and routinely institutionalised to the extent of not allowing them any significant political space or right to their ancient temple sites.

When are we going to say emphatically "Shape up or ship out!" to the hate-mongering evil greedy, dishonest and fascist islamist devils? Where are the benevolent 'enforcers'?

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Posted by Fareena Raza on Sep 11, 2005

Another piece of concrete evidence that Hindu majority state has been held back in its aspirations by vile and bile from the hate idealogy of its minority-

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New victim of Indian politics: Supreme Court
By: Aruni Mukherjee September 05, 2005

This whole debate raises a fundamental question about secularism- and it increasingly shows that in India it is a façade. Secularism rests on the rejection of preference by the state of any particular religion or caste in public life. In India, it has translated into anti-majoritarianism, depriving the poorly defined “majority” for the minorities, and inventing new categories of minorities on a regular basis. Quashing yet another move towards further legalising social discrimination, the Supreme Court is on the right side of the fence on this issue. Yet it may well be a temporary victory, as political parties in Delhi move to introduce an amendment in the winter session of parliament. Indian politics has yet another victim- first it was economics; this time it is the Supreme Court.
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What is I said here, "There is no stable secular institution left for the 'Hindu majority country' to re-build and re-construct after 800 years of colonial devastation and ravages. It is getting bad to worse, even the SC being so corrupt and inept that they banned the film exposing the Godhra brutality..."
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about robbing of basic Human Rights for the Hindus by even the SUPREME COURT has been confirmed. The unity move of Kerala Hindus was thwarted as 'anti-secular.' To quote from Miriam,

Another macaber bizzare news item that was also grotesque was this one,
+++++++"Unity move in a few parts of india is opposed as "anti-secularism."
A unity plan that can make a mark in Kerala Indo-Asian News Service Thiruvananthapuram, January 11, 2005|11:27 IST

Moves by two groups representing two major Hindu communities in Kerala
to unite is causing political reverberations in the state.
The Kerala Latin Catholic Association has termed the unity plan
"an open challenge" to the country's secular fabric.

Kanthapuram AP Aboobacker Musliyar, a Sunni Muslim leader, said
no unity between any groups should come at the cost of minorities.
The Kerala Latin Catholic Association has termed the unity plan "an open challenge" to the country's secular fabric."
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The reason why these anti-Hindu enforcers - i.e evil doers - are thriving in a Hindu majority country must be now self-evident - simply by lies galore, bigoted initimidation and brute force that the anti-Hindu Congress and its fascist goondas have been using ever since the first I-Day.
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Posted by Fareena Raza on Sep 11, 2005

Mr Nam's model if inclusive of evil-doers, might address the caste system among the muslims and christians. 'Nadar' christians still obviously retain their Nadar identity.
I cited concrete evidence of how casteism is prevalent in Pakistan and among converted Dalits.

There was no rigid caste system per se in ancient India. Thus, Viswamithr, a kshatriya, became a brahmin type rishi and Parashuram, a Brahmin became a King like a kshatriya, and so on..Even now, many Brahmins are running many kinds of business, non-Brahmins are teachers if not preachers..and so on...

Even Ravan had many brahmin like practices and qualities, save for his lust that brought his downfall. Like a semi-moralist, he did not **rape** his captive, unlike the very many present day anti-Hindu rapists like the one that abducted Ms Kanchan Misra, until the women's organisation, NOW, had to rescure her. (the wars of yore had rules and boundaries like not fighting after dark, not attacking the civilians, and so on until the muslim invaders broke all the rules and institutionalised serial mass murders to date).

If the illegal occupation of Hindustan by muslims ends, there might be some restoration of proper morals and values.

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Posted by Fareena Raza on Sep 11, 2005

The very notion of "Hindu majority country" is a myth; numerical superiority means nothing and this is known by everyone but acknowledged by very few, including the pretentious Pallu or Nair. There is no monolithic Hindu society, as Mr Nam pointed out, the society being full of very many minor minorities.

The reason why these anti-Hindu enforcers - i.e evil doers - are thriving in Hindu majority country is simple. Simply by lies galore and brute force that the anti-Hindu Congress and its fascist goondas have been using ever since the first I-Day. The last elections were won mostly by lethal naxal - i.e Mr Nair's goondas - proxy violence on TDP, routing Andhra opponents. There is no stable secular institution left for the "Hindu majority country" to re-build and re-construct after 800 years of colonial devastation and ravages. It is getting bad to worse, even the SC being so corrupt and inept that they banned the film exposing the Godhra brutality.

The whole house of Congress cards would collapse if the oppressive rulers start being accountable - i.e. start being held to account by BJP do-gooders. (Mr Nam's model must include do-gooders and evil-doers , i.e. malevolent and benevolent 'enforcers')


[Savarkar's original conception of Hindutva was much like a
HINDUSTAN for Hindus, even as Fakistan was carved out for the
evil muslims. IT WAS NOT A TWO NATION theory. It was for
preserving the culture and rights of the majority that had been
persecuted, oppressed and suppressed for several prior
centuries.

IT HAS NOT CHANGED; we are still persecuted and our rights have
been eroded more and we are worse off than in 1947; we are more
under threat and risk than ever before. This is all the more the
reason for reviving the Hinduta idea.

If there are now more terrorist criminals, all their dishonest
accomplices seem to be obscenely dishonest supporters weaving
webs of mass deception in ever bizarre distasteful denial and
deceit - like the excuses for GODHRA attack, like running away
from the long arm of the law for MARAD savagery,
train/bus/temple blasts, pakki flags, ishrat support, now LeT
support in H'bad...etc - unlike UMA-ji who turned herself in. We
cant even show we are indeed angry and outraged for this
continued barbarism that has gone on for several centuries.

Another basic truth is none of the anti-Indians have been held to
account while innocent Hindus have been dragged to court or jail
for mostly baseless reasons and on unjustifiable grounds like Her
Excellency UMA-ji. The system has been corrupted and infiltrated
by the anti-Indian criminals hate-mongers who abuse the system to
their fascist ends and many of them even get away with murder].
Yes, we need to unite to fight all the adversaries and make
elections work for us. Now with congress, we are facing new
threats like job quotas, lands for the mosies. These may be
IRREVERSIBLE. IE one of my new concerns.

It is easy to teach a non-violent lesson - by **boycotting** the
business of these criminals. ONLY BOYCOTT AND PROTESTS can solve
this! Long Live HINDUTVA!!

In Sulekha, pls be sure to denounce the anti-nationals as such -
as anti-nationals - as unfit to live as civilized citizens.
Evidence is ten deaths for the foul remarks of jerry Falwell in
far-away USA - no other islamist nation suffered savage deaths
for distant filthy comments, sadly. This reminds us of moplah
pogrom in Kerala where 1000s died for something unrelated in
iraq/turkey. Jinah's carnage is to be brought up again and
again.

For postGodhra, they are calling us bad names. We need to counter
this.

Same way, in other media too, we need to bring this up often. The
points that need to be stressed are-
+ We are facing frequent 9-11´s.
+ our revenge attacks is rare indeed;
+ our women are more vulnerable while theirs are in burqa;
+ By sexual attacks, they are spreading AIDS,
+ By hijacking democracy, our rule by majority has been made
dream by them even after end of colonialism,
+ Ethnic cleansing of Hindus in several states like Kashmir,
Kerala and Assam is changing the demography,
+ They are multiplying very fast, changing the demography,
+ They are infiltrating from the east and the west,
+ They are converting us, again changing the demography,
+ They are subverting all our institutions even the media, police
and the courts.

Hence, the situation is indeed dire, critical, grave and serious. By protests, boycott and writing to the media, we need to win back our lands, rights and safety and economic stability.

Power to the HINDUS to bring democracy back and regain our nation AND GET TRUE INDEPENDENCE AND AUTONOMY! Love and regards, We have put up with too many lies, hate crimes, conversion, illegal migration and occupation, and now subversion too that gives job quotas and land plots to the very islamists who continue to be criminally offensive against the civil society of India. The official
statistics that YBChavan commissioned that concluded about 23 out of 24 riots during that period was started by them, must have been a rude awakening a long ago.

Now Europe is waking up with Theo van Gogh's murder and shows revenge in the same vein is what can teach them, revenge that resulted in burning of many mosques and schools. Such violence is
never good and we are always too tolerant and yet getting too poor an image. So boycott and
protest is a better method. we need to unite to fight all the adversaries and make elections work for us. Now with congress, we are facing new threats like job quotas, lands for the mosies.
These may be IRREVERSIBLE. IE one of my new concerns.



In India, they [the jihadi politicians] built an atmosphere of mistrust between minorities and majority community by insinuating imaginary fears so as to nurture minorities into their vote bank. Due to political appeasement these vote banks have preferred to live as minorities, leaned on state protection seeking more benefits through separate personal laws and reservation. The
sect leaders and clergymen not only strengthened their communal feelings but went to the extent of seeking emotional support from neighboring theocratic states to perpetuate terrorist activities on Indian soil. The recent pronouncements of Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid should caution the over secularist lobby in India. However, they are still trying to find excuse to prosecute Bal Thackery for his nationalism!

It is well known that illegal immigration is taking place in all the Border States where the minority
groups shelter migrants, drug peddlers and infiltrators. Any attempt to flush out illegal
migrants is resisted by unpatriotic political leaders throbbing on minority vote banks in the name of
secularism. Can't we foresee that tomorrow-illegal migrants will demand separate ethnic identities and homeland with the support from foreign powers like NATO intervention in Yugoslavia?

With every day passing the situation is getting from bad to worse. The recent trend is reflected through frequent alignments of heterogeneous political parties trying to create political instability to retard country's march towards progress. In the guise of preserving 'secularism' the forces actually propagating and practicing casteism and communalism have emerged as power brokers. Politicians are vying with each other to flatter minorities by bartering the interests of majority community to seek their electoral support in elections."


Referring to this quote from Irfan Husain at Dawn,
"Over the years, Pakistanis going abroad have often been involved in a host of shady activities ranging from illegal immigration to drug smuggling. Hundreds of thousands of them have wanted nothing more than a chance to make a decent living for themselves and their families. But this understandable impulse has seen them adopt ingenious and often desperate methods to enter foreign countries. Other Pakistanis have enriched themselves by smuggling heroin and marijuana into the West. Still others are running profitable scams by claiming benefits from social security. A London paper recently printed details about the Sindh governor's allegedly false claims to housing and support while living in the UK.

These dubious and downright criminal activities have made Pakistanis unpopular visitors." The islamist contribution to India is also all negative being only to the crime statistics of India! Enough of colonial crums of alien christian and muslim cultures dominating your political scene for so many centuries!


Quote from one Sankar,
"observe how when any mullah or padre is accused, the whole community and their companions with Hindu names express solidarity with them however grave the charges. Teesta Salvad is one example and so were that girl and her co-terrorists killed in ahmedabad(why isn't modi changing the name of the city).
In Kerala a Muslim League leader is accussed of raping children and the muslim community and Congress are behind him. They even arrested the girl who was raped with attempted suicide."

If they know they are hurting their own kith and kin, if they know that a Hindu lady cannot walk alone at any time of the day in New Delhi as Hindu gangs would pounce on her to rape her, they dare not indulge the self-indulgent greedy, dishonest and fascist criminals that your minority represent."

Read about this wonderful "interfaith dialog" in Fakistan:
"Pakistan has a legal loophole which enables muslims to kidnap Christian women and convert them to Islam forcibly. After they obtain a nikahnama (marriage deed) that prevents the Christian women from being restored to their faith"

Read about this wonderful "interfaith dialog" between and India and Fakistan:
"Despite the recent bonhomie in Indo-Pak ties, Pakistan has denied visas to a troupe of Indian musicians, including noted classical singer Shubha Mudgal, which was scheduled to perform in Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi. The nine musicians had to cancel their visit as the Pakistan high commission here denied them visas."

Given all this atrocities by war-mongers of FAKISTAN and hate-mongers in Hindustan, secularism and pluralism of Hindus is likely to dominate in place of savage islamist fanaticism and greedy and dishonest fascist bigotry of the minority!! I see gathering momentum of native culture taking their rightful role and rule from the criminal syndicate your ruling party symbolizes!!! (Those who are indirectly involved are almost as critical to national security as those directly implicated). The minority of India are unable and unwilling to changing their current course of self-destructive path, because they continue to use savage violence to seize and control, with no sense of humanity or decency or dignity !!

All this savage violence won't continue if Hindus empower themselves by ***boycott*** of muslim smugglers and traffickers that is now clearly confirmed by Irfan Husain.


Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Aug 6, 2005

The case of savage killings in India linked to a Christian's foul comments [Jerry Falwell] on islam, shows clearly the muslims left over in 1947 have **excessive** savage power got by fascist grab, beyond what the minority of other nations have.

Besides being savagely in their frequent and wide spread violence like during Ganesh Chaturthi or Falwell's case, the islamist fascists are also intolerant of people like Sikhand or any one else. Their tribal society seems to be logically incapable of self-criticism: "If a mistake was made, it wasn't by me, because I don't make mistakes," response proves the worst type of fascism.

No wonder the word, "islamofascism" was coined. But it was coined [and is being routinely used] not in India where it is most applicable but elsewhere! And yet, many have gone into hiding unpunished. On the other hand, virulent islamists of U.K are under closer scrutiny, as Blair thunders:
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Time and again over the past few weeks I've been asked to deal firmly with those prepared to engage in such extremism, and most particularly with those who incite it or proselytise for it.

First, the Home Secretary today publishes new grounds for deportation and exclusion. Deportation is a decision taken by the Home Secretary under statute. The new grounds will include fostering hatred, advocating violence to further a person's beliefs, or justifying or validating such violence. These grounds will be subject to a short consultation period which will finish this month. Even under existing grounds, however, we are today signalling a new approach to deportation orders. Let no-one be in any doubt, the rules of the game are changing.
...the circumstances of our national security have self evidently changed,

there will be new anti-terrorism legislation in the Autumn. This will include an offence of condoning or glorifying terrorism. The sort of remarks made in recent days should be covered by such laws. But this will also be applied to justifying or glorifying terrorism anywhere, not just in the United Kingdom.

Thirdly, anyone who has participated in terrorism, or has anything to do with it anywhere will be automatically refused asylum in our country.

Fourth, we already have powers to strip citizenship from those individuals with British or dual nationality who act in a way that is contrary to the interests of this country. We will now consult on extending these powers, applying them to naturalised citizens engaged in extremism, and making the procedures simpler and more effective.
we will proscribe Hizb-ut-Tahira and the successor organisation of Al Mujahiroun. We will also examine the grounds for proscription to widen them and put forward proposals in the new legislation.
it is now necessary in order to acquire British citizenship that people attend a citizenship ceremony, swear allegiance to this country, and have a rudimentary grasp of the English language.


Eleven, we will consult on a new power to order closure of a place of worship which is used as a centre for fomenting extremism,

But coming to Britain is not a right, and even when people have come here, staying here carries with it a duty. That duty is to share and support the values that sustain the British way of life. Those that break that duty and try to incite hatred or engage in violence against our country and it's people have no place here.


Well I don't believe suicide bombing is acceptable anywhere, terrorist attacks anywhere, and I think we should be very clear about that.

People who want to be British citizens should share our values and our way of life. But if you come to our country from abroad, don't meddle in extremism. If you meddle in it or engage in it, then you're going to go back out again. Let me just say this to people very very clearly, this is the beginning of, and there will be lots of battles ....
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The question for Indians, not just Hindus, to ask is when will the
virulent islamists of India come under closer scrutiny and the criminals under investigation? Virulent savage islamists of the rest of world barring India have been put on notice. When will our rulers wake up?

Will the conversion mobsters leave us alone and will the government give us what Tony Blair phrased as,"complete freedom to worship in the way they want and to follow their own religion and culture,"in order to preserve and protect our way of life called SANATANA DHARMA? Every savage anti-Hindu must apply Blair's Dharma principle,
"People who want to be British citizens should share our values and our way of life" while in India too.

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Posted by Fareena Raza on Aug 6, 2005

TONY BLAIR IS BRINGING DRACONIAN MEASURES UNTHINKABLE IN INDIA, ["Under the proposals, anyone who preaches hatred or violence could be deported, those linked to terrorism would be automatically refused asylum, and steps would be taken to make it easier to strip naturalized citizens of their British citizenship if they preached violence."]
EVEN POTA HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE LAW BOOKS.

TO ME, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "Hindutva fascism" SINCE THE "Hindutvadis" ARE **NOT**
CLAIMING ANY TYPE OF SUPERIORITY WHEN WE HAVE BEEN RIDICUING THEM AS SELF-LOATHING INSECURE BUNCH.
THEY ARE ARE MERELY STRUGGLING FOR EQUALITY IN THEIR OWN ANCIENT HOMELAND HINDUSTAN. HINDUSTAN BEING THEIR LAND.
THE ONUS OF PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE AND LAWFUL CONDUCT IS ON US, IT IS OUR DUTY "TO BEHAVE LIKE ROMANS IN ROME", IF YOU WILL. EVEN ANTI-HINDU, YOGINDER SIKAND, WAS SHUNNED BY ISLAMISTS, THE VERY **MINUTE** HE CRITCISED THE ISLAMISTS WHOSE FASCISM IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN ANY SPIRITED DEFENSE BY THE "Hindutvadis" - SAY, DURING OUR SAVAGE STONING OF GANESH FUNCTIONS. YOGINDER SIKAND'S PHRASE NEEDS CORRECTION AS, "HINDU RADICALS AND ISLAMIC FASCISTS". HE MAY NOW WELL REALISE THAT HE WAS ONE OF THE MANY ANTI-HINDU SUBVERTED FOOLS. HOPEFULLY NOT ANY MORE.

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Posted by Fareena Raza on Aug 6, 2005

IT IS RIDICULOUS AND LUDICROUS TO BAN OR BAR OR DENOUNCE VALID OPINIONS SUCH AS THIS-

["..YOGINDER SIKAND 'Enemy Of Islam'
I have recently earned this epithet after discovering that Hindutva fascists and Islamist radicals need to be opposed equally consistently. Before that truth dawned on me, my denunciations of Hindutva were regularly published in the Jama'at-i Islami's weekly Radiance, but these stopped completely ever I began speaking out against Islamists and obscurantist mullahs as well..."]

BY SELECTIVE PUBLICITY OR SELECTIVE PROPAGANDA OF "RADIANCE", SUCH BEHAVIOUR EXPOSES IT AS A MYTH MILL.
TO ME, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "Hindutva fascists" SINCE THEY ARE NOT CLAIMING SUPERIORITY WHEN in fact WE HAVE BEEN RIDICUING THEM AS SELF-LOATHING INSECURE BUNCH. TO QUOTE AN ISLAMIST, "..many Parivaris have insecurity at the base of their aggressive views and actions."

CULTURAL ASSAULTS ON Sanatana Dharma IS THE ROOT OF THE INSECURITY OF THE NATIVE CULTURE OF INDIA.
HERE LIES THE ANSWER TO,"WHERE DID THE MINORITY GO WRONG?" TYPE QUESTION.

BY USING ALL MEANS - OFTEN FOUL, BY BEING ETERNAL GRABBERS, MINORITY MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS HAVE PAINTED THEMSELVES
AS FASCIST IMPERIALISTS, NEO-COLONIAL DEMONS.

TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY, IMPERIALISTS HAVE BEEN BRANDING THE VICTIMS AS OUTCASTS THAT PROVOKED THIS RESPONSE-
["RSS is a volunteer organization involved in selfless social work, whereas, Islam/Christianism and other exclusive religions, at the core, are based on ideologies that stand for intolerance and discrimination against all who do not go along with their belief systems.

By clubbing the two diametrically oppsite groups together, you are proving here, beyond any doubt, that you work in support of those intolerant bigots in this world who want to impose their ideology on everybody by hook or crook."]

SANATANA DHARMA IS UNDER ATTACK - OFTEN SAVAGE TYPE LIKE DURING GANESH IMMERSION FESTIVITIES - FROM MANY SIDES AND IT IS LITTLE WONDER THEY FEEL A LITTLE IRRITABLE. WE HAVE BROUGHT THE ABRAHAMIC FIGHTING SPIRIT OF CRUSADES [BETWEN ISLAMISTS AND CHRISTIANS] TO THE INDIAN SOIL, USING CRIMINAL MEANS LEADING TO CRIMINAL ENDS AS SEEN IN THE CRIMINAL INTIMIDATION OF HINDU STAR, MS RAI, BY salman khan. ISLAMISTS WHO REFUSE TO INTEGRATE INTO U.K ARE NOW TONY BLAIR'S WORST NIGHTMARE.

["We are angry. We are angry about extremism and about what they are doing to our
country, angry about their abuse of our good nature"] ARE NOT THE WORDS OF ANY HINDUTVADI
BUT TONY BLAIR'S!..!


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Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Aug 6, 2005

The case of savage killings in India linked to a Christian's foul comments on islam, shows clearly the muslims left over in 1947 have **excessive** savage power got by fascist grab, beyond what the minority of other nations have.

Besides being savagely in their frequent and wide spread violence like during Ganesh Chaturthi or Falweel's case, the islamist fascists are also
intolerant of people like Sikhand or any one else. Their tribal society seems to be logically incapable of self-criticism: "If a mistake was made, it wasn't by me, because I don't make mistakes," response proves the worst type of fascism.

No wonder the word, "islamofascism" was coined. But it was coined [and is being routinely used] not in India where it is most applicable but elsewhere! And yet, many have gone into hiding unpunished. On the other hand, virulent islamists of U.K are under closer scrutiny, as Blair thunders:
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Time and again over the past few weeks I've been asked to deal firmly with those prepared to engage in such extremism, and most particularly with those who incite it or proselytise for it.

First, the Home Secretary today publishes new grounds for deportation and exclusion. Deportation is a decision taken by the Home Secretary under statute. The new grounds will include fostering hatred, advocating violence to further a person's beliefs, or justifying or validating such violence. These grounds will be subject to a short consultation period which will finish this month. Even under existing grounds, however, we are today signalling a new approach to deportation orders. Let no-one be in any doubt, the rules of the game are changing.
...the circumstances of our national security have self evidently changed,

there will be new anti-terrorism legislation in the Autumn. This will include an offence of condoning or glorifying terrorism. The sort of remarks made in recent days should be covered by such laws. But this will also be applied to justifying or glorifying terrorism anywhere, not just in the United Kingdom.

Thirdly, anyone who has participated in terrorism, or has anything to do with it anywhere will be automatically refused asylum in our country.

Fourth, we already have powers to strip citizenship from those individuals with British or dual nationality who act in a way that is contrary to the interests of this country. We will now consult on extending these powers, applying them to naturalised citizens engaged in extremism, and making the procedures simpler and more effective.
we will proscribe Hizb-ut-Tahira and the successor organisation of Al Mujahiroun. We will also examine the grounds for proscription to widen them and put forward proposals in the new legislation.
it is now necessary in order to acquire British citizenship that people attend a citizenship ceremony, swear allegiance to this country, and have a rudimentary grasp of the English language.


Eleven, we will consult on a new power to order closure of a place of worship which is used as a centre for fomenting extremism,

But coming to Britain is not a right, and even when people have come here, staying here carries with it a duty. That duty is to share and support the values that sustain the British way of life. Those that break that duty and try to incite hatred or engage in violence against our country and it's people have no place here.


Well I don't believe suicide bombing is acceptable anywhere, terrorist attacks anywhere, and I think we should be very clear about that.

People who want to be British citizens should share our values and our way of life. But if you come to our country from abroad, don't meddle in extremism. If you meddle in it or engage in it, then you're going to go back out again. Let me just say this to people very very clearly, this is the beginning of, and there will be lots of battles ....
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The question for Indians, not just Hindus, to ask is when will the
virulent islamists of India come under closer scrutiny and the criminals under investigation? Virulent savage islamists of the rest of world barring India have been put on notice. When will our rulers wake up?

Will the conversion mobsters leave us alone and will the government give us what Tony Blair phrased as,"complete freedom to worship in the way they want and to follow their own religion and culture,"in order to preserve and protect our way of life called SANATANA DHARMA? Every savage anti-Hindu must apply Blair's Dharma principle,
"People who want to be British citizens should share our values and our way of life" while in India too.

Referring to, "Islamists (whatever those are)", let me say "See the wolf pack in your living room!" [elephant there might be ok]

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Sunday, September 11, 2005
Expressindia
Bus hijacked, torched in Kerala in bid to free Islamic extremist
Gunmen divert TN bus, want prime accused in Coimbatore blasts freed
RAJEEV P I
Posted online: Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 0219 hours IST

Abdul Nasser Madani KOCHI, SEPTEMBER 10: On Thursday night, five armed men boarded a Tamil Nadu State Road Transport Corporation bus at Ernakulam, hijacked it at gunpoint and burnt it, demanding the release of Abdul Nasser Madani, Islamic extremist and a key accused in the Coimbatore blasts.

Madani was arrested after the serial bomb blasts on February 14, 1998 in Coimbatore during BJP leader L K Advani’s visit that killed 58 people.
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Why should 100 out of 142 MLAS plead for an islamic extremist?Is Supremecourt which turned down his bail but released Gilanii is a Hindutva outfit?Is madani who has put a reward for killing of jail offcials as well as already killed a deputy jailor is a democrat?Why chief minister Chandy plead for his release from jayalalitha?Why a particular Ayurveda dispensary is being required for his treatment?What is the compulsions of the present ruling elite to have him released before the kerala poll?
Posted by: captain johann, India, 11-09-2005 at 1056 hours IST

• bus hijacked, torched in kerala in bid go free islamic extremist
Kerala's UDF and LDF is responsibile for such terrorist acts. They are in competition supporting the Islamic Extremist Madani. Both these fronts are against the Nation and Hindus. By supporting Madani they are insulting the Hindus and the peace loving peoples of this country. Very soon Kerala will gain the status of Indias first hundred percent islamic terrorist state.
Posted by: Satheesan, United Arab Emirates, 11-09-2005 at 1007 hours IST
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In effect, 'islamists' who support terrorist attacks rule India using savage attacks as a political tool. No matter how high is your ideal, you have no justification to use violence. But under islamist perception, there is no law for them, as they are above the law of the land. [I am not sure about Fareena, I'd define an 'islamist' as any one - not necessarily a muslim - who supports/condones/incites terrorist politics]. Your muslim population might well have 70% 'islamists.' While almost all the colonial brits left India, colonial islamists did not. In fact, the country merely changed hands from the brits to the islamists - courtesy Gandhi, liberation struggle for the majority still being fought, resistance movement being manipulated out by webs of mass deception, deceit and denial...using rapes, serial mass murders and intimidaton as political tools...NO WIND MILLS HERE, IT IS NEITHER SPAIN NOR HOLLAND, SADLY.

In Spain, for the death of one Spaniard by a mad moroccan, several hundreds of muslims were killed and their houses burnt much like Godhra backlash and yet, how well known is this factual event?

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Posted by Miriam the Jew on Sep 5, 2005

Most of the ill-effects of death and devastation from pandering to those that did not deserve your citizenship could have been prevented if you had taken heed to the warnings of Honorable Mr Veer Saravarkar and Honorable Mr Golwalkar gave ages ago.

Referring to the comments that "these vote banks have preferred to live as minorities, leaned on state protection seeking more benefits", I'd say they are begging all the time for hand-outs though they and theirs are filthy rich with ill-gotten gains often using criminal methods and illegal activities, whether it is bollywood khans who didnt do a darn thing even for tsuanmi unlike Vivek Obroi and

Most Venerable Anantmayi Amma-ji who did a whole lot of good for tsunami victims that
witnessed church nuns running away wildly on seeing a TV-NEWS crew that watched their
forceful conversion tactics failing.

Agreeing with this, "You're giving them way too much credit. They can only understand simplistic, moronic statements like: believe in christ-insanity or go to hell. be damned for eternity. ..They don't understand civility and decency. If they did, they wouldn't try to undermine other people's cultures and faiths. Civility and decency with these viruses have led to what? They latch on to the host and suck them dry," this is what we see in India and wherever they go, be it Thailand, Korea or India or Africa. The Jews of USA were assulted by "conversion mafia" as well but we could drive them out very easily. You have totally been overlooked, because no one who is responsible and enlightened, is in-charge. Such mature and dignified people as those in BHP, VHP, .. have largely been vulgarly "side-lined."

I see much similarity between INDIA and USA. Both are too permissive and decadent with homosexuality and islamist threats making life insecure from AIDS and unsafe streets.

India gives too much freedom for the islamists and the percent of anti-indians might be well over 70%. Even the media is anti-national. No wonder economy of China is much better, without islamist serial mass violence. Why your christians side with your islamists is something that is indeed the most bizarre thing, in my reckoning.

Another macaber bizzare news item that was also grotesque was this one,
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-------||A unity plan that can make a mark in Kerala Indo-Asian News Service
Thiruvananthapuram, January 11, 2005|11:27 IST

Moves by two groups representing two major Hindu communities in Kerala
to unite is causing political reverberations in the state.
The Kerala Latin Catholic Association has termed the unity plan
"an open challenge" to the country's secular fabric.

Kanthapuram AP Aboobacker Musliyar, a Sunni Muslim leader, said
no unity between any groups should come at the cost of minorities.
The Kerala Latin Catholic Association has termed the unity plan "an open challenge" to the country's secular fabric."
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that made someone say this,
"No doubt the minority of India have **excessive** rights. There is no question that they enjoy absolute freedom to kill at will, rape and maim, with absolutely **no** legal consequence."

Yes, your vulgar mnority do not accept any responsibility for their actions, as they are rewarded time and again for their continuing barbaric behavior, with even the Hindu citizens having no "reaction to their organized attacks," not even to this one that led to "egregious and horrendous deaths of ten for something quite unrelated to India and Hindus - bad mouthing of islam by JERRY FALWELL; etc" much like moplah savage pogroms. Not even to millions of church rapes of your minors most of which is yet to be exposed.

No wonder chauvinistic fantasies of pan-islamic caliphate is being pushed foolishly in a fragile and unstable region with two nuclear powers. Even the pseudo secularists like Mr A Nair are working to ruin your country instead of re-building it from the ravages of colonialism, being the bridges of harmony and expanding economic clout in Central Asia or displacing Chinese from malaysia and Indonesia where they are holding more than 70% of the economic wealth and power whereas several and frequent acts of "whimsical savagery" and culturally blighting assaults from your muslims and christians happen only in a "soft" state like India, being so full of themselves.. .

In American parlance, your murderous muslim villains and the christian crooks are getting only carrots and no sticks. I cant agree with this more, "While our awareness is increasing, our reaction to their organized savage attacks in terms of rapes, serial mass murders, led by the minority party's fundamentalist totalitarian regime, is less than mild - I see not even a feeble boycott campaign."

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It is clear that war-mongering pakkis are bent on using arms-race and thier foot-soldiers inside India to drain our economy and keep riots and violene going year after, decade after decade. For many centuries after uslim invasion, we have lost our lands, women's honor, our lives and even basic right to live [considering 10 deaths for the remarks of JERRY FALWELL and many riotous violence like in Godhra, Marad, buses, trains, temples, ..etc.] and worship as our way of life [as we are lynched during street Ganesh or Hanuman festivities]. PLEASE RED ON AS TO WHAT EVEN MUSLIMS FEEL ABOUT OUR CONDITION-
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Posted by Munir.Akram on Sep 1, 2005

IBSM'S NOTES ARE PART OF "The Rise Of Legitimate Resistance" IN THE VEDIC SOCIETY'S LIBERATION STRUGGLE TOWARDS AUTONOMY, INDEPENDENCE AND SELF-RULE.

IBSM HAS THE FULL RIGHT TO USE WHATEVER NAME HE WANTS. IT IS A TRIVIAL ISSUE WHEN THERE ARE MANY OTHER GRAVE AND HOT BUTTON ISSUES THAT NEED URGENT ATTENTION, SOME OF WHICH ARE:=
/////////How 'kill Advani, Bal' plan fell through at Dawood's den (this article may now be available in the Daily Pioneer archive of March 12, 2005)

FALLOUT FEAR FORCED TERROR HONCHOS TO OPT FOR MUMBAI BLASTS INSTEAD--- The Supreme Court may have upheld the stay on a film depicting "the true story" of the biggest ever terror attack on Mumbai on March 12, 1993, but the book Black Friday, on which the film is based, has made startling revelations about a pan-Islamic conspiracy to trigger a bloodbath in India by assassinating Advani and Thackeray. ‘Advani and Bal can be killed by just one handshake or one garland.’

As the megapolis completed 12 years of surviving the serial blasts, jinxed film-maker Anurag Kashyap was battling to show how the people behind the explosions were not just D-company but the entire fundamentalist Muslim world for whom avenging Babri Masjid was just a ploy to achieve
another aim - intimidating a 'non-believing' nation into subjugation.

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///////'Secular' assault on democracy
(this article may now be available in the Daily Pioneer archive of March 04, 2005)
The Congress has a long history of subverting democracy and the Constitution. Sonia has the added disadvantage of not being able to understand the Indian mind, our deep democratic traditions and an almost obsessive passion for fair play. Nor did she anticipate the instantaneous reproach of the media to the Jharkhand episode. She had tasted blood in Goa, and concluded that in the name of secularism, murder was passé. And this was the height of Sonia's glory. An alert NDA leadership and an equally active media successfully exposed the Congress' greed.

////////When 'Musharraf' and 'Benazir' cross borders
Indo-Asian News Service
Bhuj (Gujarat), August 30, 2005
A camel was caught while it was being used to ferry RDX explosives from Pakistan to India in 2000 near the Pachcham area of Kutch district. Three riders who were with the camel escaped. The camel had 24 kg of explosives strapped to it.

The camel has been nicknamed 'Musharraf' after the Pakistan president. After bringing 'Musharraf' to a court, a suit was filed against his supposed owner for trafficking explosives.

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August 29, 2005 14:11 IST
Home Secretary V K Duggal said he will request his Pakistani counterpart for deportation of all wanted people from their soil so that they could face trial. India would raise the demand of handing over terrorists and criminals including Dawood Ibrahim from Pakistan. Dawood is wanted in India in connection with the 1993 serial blasts in Mumbai and other serious crimes.
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Azharuddin
August 30, 2005 23:06 IST
Last Updated: August 31, 2005 00:45 IST
Azhar has been provided security cover by the Hyderabad police after he allegedly received threatening calls.

Four personal security officers (PSOs) have been deputed to guard to the former skipper. [TAX-PAYERS' MONEY FOR A KNOWN CROOK].
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RSS opposes quotas for SC converts
- By PTI 7:06 AM 3/13/2005
Mangalore, March 13: Harping again on the proselytising issue, the RSS on Sunday said it was against quotas for Scheduled Caste converts as these "crypto-Christians" would reap the benefits meant for SCs and amount to giving reservations on the basis of religion. If their demand was conceded, it would render "great injustice to SCs, as a larger share of the benefit for which they were rightfully entitled would be grabbed by the converts," a resolution on the concluding day of annual conclave of the RSS Akhil Bharat Pratinidhi Sabha said. Another serious implication would be a steep rise in religious conversions among SCs, since it would remove a major obstacle for foreign funded missionaries, who were engaged in religious conversions "by hook or crook," the resolution said.
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Attempt to attack Mata Amritanandamayi foiled
Sunday, 21 August , 2005, 22:20

Kollam: An attempt by a man to attack spiritual leader Mata Amritanandamayi at her Vallikavu Ashram near here was foiled by the ashram inmates on Sunday evening.

The inmates of the ashram prevented the man armed with a knife as he sought to climb up to the podium where the Mata was conducting bhajan, Mutt sources said.
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////////She apologised. They gang raped her anyway.
haven for gang rape victim
Jun 23, 2005 By Asian Pacific News Service
On a scorching June day three years ago in the village of Meerwala, which is a 12-hour drive southeast from Pakistan‘s capital of Islamabad, 14 men in a darkened room volunteered to gang rape Mukhtaran Mai.

Mai, the unmarried 30-year-old daughter of a family deemed “low-caste“ was then ordered to walk home naked before hundreds of villagers who were dancing with joy.

She had to kill herself to avoid further shame to her family. After all, the local tribal elders decreed, a girl in the next village was gang-raped around the same time and she took the traditional route: she swallowed a bottle of pesticide and dropped dead.
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/////////Bihar gangster who abducted, married Kanchan Mishra arrested Press Trust of India
Posted online: Saturday, May 03, 2003 at 1645 hours IST
Siwan, May 3: Police on Saturday arrested one of Bihar's most wanted criminal and contract killer Sultan Mian and rescued Kanchan Mishra, whom he allegedly abducted and married forcibly, from Siwan town.


The main accused in last year's killing of a Patna-based businessman Manoj Kamalia, Sultan was wanted in several cases of murder, loot and kidnapping.
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////IMAM RAJ//////Muslim panel to reply on fatwas
- By Venkat Parsa
New Delhi, Aug. 28: The All-India Muslim Personal Law Board on Sunday set up a six-member committee to frame its response to Supreme Court notice on August 16 on setting up of Shariat courts. The Muslim Personal Law Board has not yet received the Supreme Court notice but has decided to meet and formulate its response on the basis of media reports.
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Love story a la Bollywood
Nabanita Sircar
London, August 26, 2005
Nabilah Arshad claims her strictly Muslim family cannot accept her being with Anil Kumar, 20, who has a Sikh background. After receiving threats, the pair fled home last week.
In a six-month relationship, the Glasgow couple vowed to remain together and plan to marry - with or without family blessing.

Nabilah says her family threatened her when they discovered she was seeing Anil in secret. She said: "I was told my legs would be broken and Anil would be shot." They had to flee for their safety, she said.
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Mysterious death of a young woman in Hyderabad underscores the need to reform the entire concept of safe houses
By Zulfiqar Shah

On the morning of August 14, Edhi Centre in Hyderabad received an emergency call from the Dar-ul-Aman asking for an ambulance.
A couple of hours later, the centre received another call from the Dar-ul-Aman administration, this time asking for the burial of an unclaimed dead body -- of the girl who had been shifted to the hospital a few hours earlier.

Edhi volunteers found a chit of paper on the body which read: "This is not a suicide or accident but a murder. All the girls at Dar-ul-Aman will meet Kanwal's fate." The volunteers immediately informed the police.

Kanwal was reportedly smuggled to Pakistan from India ...and belonged to Delhi ...
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Islamic militants force Friday market closure in south Thailand
BANGKOK : Heeding to threats from Islamic militants to observe closure on Fridays, frightened shopkeepers in Thailand's Muslim-majority southern border region abstained from business.

Yesterday's trading halt marked the fourth consecutive week that business establishments in the troubled region closed down ...a resurgence of separatist violence has claimed over 800 lives since January 2004.
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////////European countries considering tougher anti-terrorism measures are increasingly looking to France for an example

SINCE the London bombings, all European governments have been re-evaluating their counter-terrorism strategies. Many have been studying France, which has both experience of Islamist terrorism and a reputation for toughness.

It is also now recognised that terrorist recruitment may no longer take place in official places of worship, but rather in private apartments, Islamic bookshops, fast-food joints, even rural retreats.
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KEEP UP THE VEDIC LIBERATION MOVEMENT! BOYCOTT FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE! STOP IN-FIGHTING!!!

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Posted by Fareena Raza on Sep 1, 2005
http://www.sulekha.com/expressions/columncomments.asp?cid=306020

Rudra-ji, In their bid to be civil and civilised, those of Hindu faith and those in BJP/VHP/RSS ..that "want Hinduism to be represented in good light by a group on religious tolerance," have been putting up with wide-spread and frequent savage violence for over eight centuries. It is time to say "enough is enough," as IBSM does often.

If I were in the shoes of IBSM, I'd be offended and can’t take your domination, "in all earnestness in the right spirit." I feel Hindus have accepted enough domination for very many centuries, anyways.

IBSM, Keep "your handle here on Sulekha, it is the minority that "sends a very negative message about (their) religious tolerance." Don't take minority have "any good intentions," either, because their conversion spree constitutes major intolerance.

Mr Hugo Chevez is taking legal action against Robertson who was dangerously vile against him.

###"Venezuela Wants Pat Robertson CARACAS, Venezuela, Aug. 29, 2005 The Rev. Jesse Jackson (left) embraces President Hugo Chavez (right) in Caracas. Jackson says Pat Robertson's call for Chavez' assassination was "a criminal act." (AP) "We could offer him free psychiatric treatment ... but he could be a lost case." Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, on possibly asking the U.S. to extradite Pat Robertson to Venezuela"

Given this, VHP, BJP... should be taking legal action against those who caused ten deaths in India (NOT in any of 60+ islamist nations) for the foul remarks of another christian, Jerry Falwell. Did the families of those Indian victims of religious (muslim) hatred and intolerance get any sort of compensation? How about those *often* stoned by savage muslims during Ganesh ceremonies?

Munir.Akram 's comment on
Is India helping the Maoists in Nepal? [ Posted by .o0O0o. ]

Maoists and naxal have long been in nexus as crescent brigades, agents of pakki fascists and that is how congress got into power using naxal contract killing of TDP members.

So, it is not surprising that this is happening. Best friends of maoists have been arundati roy, and co who got awards and accolades for being rabid bigotted anti-Hindus
http://opinion.narendramodi.org/ Kalki 's comment on
Minorityism, Kerala's time bomb [ Posted by parsuram ]

Kerela will be out of Indian map sooner than later. It will be the battle ground for the two fanatical abrahamic religions. Hindus will be forced to abandon this place soon. Already all CMs important

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"To balance the notion that Hindus are weak and timid, they will become so violent that every violent sect throughout history will pale in comparison. Each and every shortcoming will be corrected along the way, and before you know it, balance will be restored."

[many more such unreported pograms that might have taken place on very many more areas - all likely to have been initiated and executed by the bloodthirsty islamists and seldom by the Indians]. I heartily endorse this:
boycott islamist business! Spread the message of boycott to your near and dear, to women and children in particular!! To paraphrase someone here, BOYCOTT to 'defeat minorityism and defend India'!!..! Indians/Hindus are under taxation sans representation regime of greedy, dishonest anti-Indian communalists.

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FIFTH COLUMN
How Muslims are victims of secularism
TAVLEEN SINGH
Posted online: Sunday, September 04, 2005 at 0000 hours IST

Tavleen Singh Let me begin with a question. Why have Muslims in India remained an underclass despite ‘‘secular’’ governments having ruled for most of our years of Independence? It is a question over which I have pondered long and deep because in the early years of my career as a journalist I had the misfortune of covering several horrific Hindu-Muslim riots. Bhagalpur, Moradabad, Meerut, Malliana, Mumbai — an unending tale of horror in which ‘‘secular’’ state governments allowed civil servants and policemen to get away with participating, actively or passively, on the Hindu side.

This long preamble is necessary because I want to establish my credentials before I say something that political correctness prevents most other commentators from saying. Muslims must wake up to the truth that they remain an underclass because they have been made victims of secularism. And, they are currently being targeted again by the ‘‘secular’’ Sonia-Manmohan government.
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A HANDFUL OF CONCERNED CITIZENS OLD OUT RECRIMINATiON over the overwhelming lack of care and concern on the part of authorities and the elite towards the impoverished, homeless and jobless masses, including terrorist driven Kashmir Pundits. The concerned citizens are saying, "Shame, shame. You were put to the test and you have miserably failed even to acknowledge the miseries of the majority of the masses and this goes right to the top leadership in Congress syndicate." Unconsciounable lack of leadership indeed!

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If it is Hindi, then those who speak languages other than Hindi need to be civilized by gentle dharmic excessive tolerance that even Gandhi did not have.

Such is the evil legacy of that foolish old man [geriatic fool or foolish messer-upper might be better phrases]


motivated by ruthless sense of wealth and power grab

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The world is looking at the pace of negotiations and the level of commitment to implement them.

expelled
“The earliest Muslim invasions into India were mostly entirely Sunni and their behavior was primarily limited to looting, genocide, temple destruction, rape and forced conversions. As a result, none of them lasted beyond a few decades. There were many aya Shahs and gaya Lodis, but none could set a firm foothold in India beyond a generation or two. The earliest Christian invasions were entirely Catholic. The Portuguese and the French Catholics too followed exactly the same pattern in Goa and elsewhere: looting, genocide, rape, temple destruction and forced conversions. Neither of them could expand beyond small regional territories.


Like a frog being boiled slowly in water, Hindus did not even realize the implications until it was too late. As a result, the British too enjoyed an empire in much of India for almost two centuries.”
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Published on Friday, September 2, 2005
Hence, dualists will continuously try to increase their flock through conversion or breeding. They will always try to be the majority. On an individual level, there will be incredible amount of importance given to physical fitness and strength.”

Minorities will develop a feigned persecution complex. There is a point when minorityism becomes the primary identity of the individuals, even superceding their religious or racial identity. Then, the majority becomes their Other. So you will see that they will identify more closely with other minorities of conflicting identities. So a Sunni businessman in India will hire Sunnis, and his next preference will be Shias, and then Catholics. He will hire Hindus only as a last resort. A Christian businessman in Sri Lanka will hire Christians, but his next preference will be Muslims, then Hindus and only as a last resort will he hire Buddhists. It does not matter that once one of them becomes the majority, they will resort to ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Other, starting with their own employees.”

Mughals knew that Hindus revered their religious places. Instead of blindly looting them and placing mosques on those spots, they captured important temple towns, but did not kill the Hindus or destroy the temple. They taxed these towns heavily. They took key ideas of building and garden designs from Hindu artisans and architects, and started calling these by Persian names, and forbid Hindus to use this knowledge. It was their way of patenting Hindu ideas under their own umbrella. They then expanded the same methods into art, singing, dancing, cooking, embroidery, dresses and anything else that Hindus excelled at.

It was to be used only against violent tyrants who could not be reached for debate or who would not come out on the battlefield to fight. It was never used against a non-violent person, no matter how radical his or her views were."

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Mysterious death of a young woman in Hyderabad underscores the need to reform the entire concept of safe houses
By Zulfiqar Shah

On the morning of August 14, Edhi Centre in Hyderabad received an emergency call from the Dar-ul-Aman asking for an ambulance.
A couple of hours later, the centre received another call from the Dar-ul-Aman administration, this time asking for the burial of an unclaimed dead body -- of the girl who had been shifted to the hospital a few hours earlier.

Edhi volunteers found a chit of paper on the body which read: "This is not a suicide or accident but a murder. All the girls at Dar-ul-Aman will meet Kanwal's fate." The volunteers immediately informed the police.

Kanwal was reportedly smuggled to Pakistan from India ...and belonged to Delhi ...
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Islamic militants force Friday market closure in south Thailand
BANGKOK : Heeding to threats from Islamic militants to observe closure on Fridays, frightened shopkeepers in Thailand's Muslim-majority southern border region abstained from business.

Yesterday's trading halt marked the fourth consecutive week that business establishments in the troubled region closed down ...a resurgence of separatist violence has claimed over 800 lives since January 2004.
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////////European countries considering tougher anti-terrorism measures are increasingly looking to France for an example

SINCE the London bombings, all European governments have been re-evaluating their counter-terrorism strategies. Many have been studying France, which has both experience of Islamist terrorism and a reputation for toughness.

It is also now recognised that terrorist recruitment may no longer take place in official places of worship, but rather in private apartments, Islamic bookshops, fast-food joints, even rural retreats.

Pundit s are having to start over from scratch - I dare say the faith and resilience with ehich they will fight the demonic forces.



If you keep sleeping and dont wake up now.., more strangers will be in your house..and you may be standing in your brother's blood [Bible- Leviticus - dont stand by while your brother is being murdered; all regions say you need to save your skin]. Put yourself ahead of muslim pigs and x'tian donkeys who have been exploiting and sexpoliting you by webs of mass deception, deceit and denial.....


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Posted by Munir.Akram on Sep 14, 2005

Again a dangerous fascist lie this:="But whenever the ideology of any religion is used to push a political or social agenda, this becomes vicious. This is as much true in case of unorganized Hinduism, as it is for highly organized religions such as Christianity or Islam." Only 'organized religions' push more of their political and less of social agenda, while opposite is true of the miniscule Hindu reps, Hindutvadis. It is by such lies and dishonesty, Hindustan was dismembered and lost its most fertile lands to who call it its enemy country and to those who continue to wreak havoc by sending/creating jihadis mainly through Kashmir, Kerala and Gujarat that have been witnessing virulent and vicious ETHNIC CLEANSING.

Even Kalam and mufti mohd have betrayed the very Hindu nobility that enthroned them and are indulged in anti-national activity, taking adavantage of disorganized nature of the Hindu liberation movement. Every anti-Hindu genocidal savagery such as Godhra/Marad/blasts-in-bus/trains has exposed how viciously anti-naitonal agenda is being pushed.

Like Gandhi said, it is the practioners who are at afault not the relgion itself. All other preceding 100s of pages discussion has been a total waste of time and efforts who seem to have nothing better to do. Answer lies in islamists turning in their criminals and compensating the Hindu victims of their religious hatred and accept a Temporary Residency Permit renewable every five years.

Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Sep 10, 2005

Another solid example of greedy animal abrahamics and smart and self-less Indics might be, compared to the Wipro greedy fascist, Dabbawalas of Mumbai have proved themselves to be many millions times super smart and egalitarian Hindutvadis unlike our greedy and dishonest fascist minority!

I was pleasantly surpried at the recent news item that their smart self-less coop is globally recognised and even admired!

You may remember, even Prince Charles invited their top seemingly "unpad" elite for his civil wedding that his mother refused to attend, because he was marrying a nair type (not violent naxal though) commoner !!!

Same fascist liar goes on:=
"Secularism has a strong tradition here since the days of Enlightenment."

You may remember, in the name of 'secularism', the French confiscated all church property and wealth too right after French revolution and at other times (and reduced the church to isolated pockets now with lack of priests forcing them to import them from Africa)!..! Can a Hindutvadi so grab church property in India? Can he/she even mention or talk about it? The fact Hindutvadi doesn't and cant even get back Ayodhya what is righfully his/her, shows the extent of discriminaiton against the majority and neo-colonial brutal domination by the greedy and dishonest fascist minority allowed to grow wildly like weeds in India!


Posted by Miriam the Jew on Sep 12, 2005

Referring to, "Islamists" (whatever those are), let me say "See the wolf pack in your living room!" [elephant there might be ok]

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Sunday, September 11, 2005
Expressindia
Bus hijacked, torched in Kerala in bid to free Islamic extremist
Gunmen divert TN bus, want prime accused in Coimbatore blasts freed
RAJEEV P I
Posted online: Sunday, September 11, 2005 at 0219 hours IST

Abdul Nasser Madani KOCHI, SEPTEMBER 10: On Thursday night, five armed men boarded a Tamil Nadu State Road Transport Corporation bus at Ernakulam, hijacked it at gunpoint and burnt it, demanding the release of Abdul Nasser Madani, Islamic extremist and a key accused in the Coimbatore blasts.

Madani was arrested after the serial bomb blasts on February 14, 1998 in Coimbatore during BJP leader L K Advani’s visit that killed 58 people.
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Why should 100 out of 142 MLAS plead for an islamic extremist?Is Supremecourt which turned down his bail but released Gilanii is a Hindutva outfit?Is madani who has put a reward for killing of jail offcials as well as already killed a deputy jailor is a democrat?Why chief minister Chandy plead for his release from jayalalitha?Why a particular Ayurveda dispensary is being required for his treatment?What is the compulsions of the present ruling elite to have him released before the kerala poll?
Posted by: captain johann, India, 11-09-2005 at 1056 hours IST

• bus hijacked, torched in kerala in bid go free islamic extremist
Kerala's UDF and LDF is responsibile for such terrorist acts. They are in competition supporting the Islamic Extremist Madani. Both these fronts are against the Nation and Hindus. By supporting Madani they are insulting the Hindus and the peace loving peoples of this country. Very soon Kerala will gain the status of Indias first hundred percent islamic terrorist state.
Posted by: Satheesan, United Arab Emirates, 11-09-2005 at 1007 hours IST
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In effect, 'islamists' who support terrorist attacks rule India using savage attacks as a political tool. No matter how high is your ideal, you have no justification to use violence. But under islamist perception, there is no law for them, as they are above the law of the land. [I am not sure about Fareena, I'd define an 'islamist' as any one - not necessarily a muslim - who supports/condones/incites terrorist politics]. Your muslim population might well have 70% 'islamists.' While almost all the colonial brits left India, colonial islamists did not. In fact, the country merely changed hands from the brits to the islamists - courtesy Gandhi, liberation struggle for the majority still being fought, resistance movement being manipulated out by webs of mass deception, deceit and denial...using rapes, serial mass murders and intimidaton as political tools...NO WIND MILLS HERE, IT IS NEITHER SPAIN NOR HOLLAND, SADLY.

In Spain, for the death of one Spaniard by a mad moroccan, several hundreds of muslims were killed and their houses burnt much like Godhra backlash and yet, how well known is this factual event?

http://www.sulekha.com/news/nhc.aspx?cid=433963
http://www.sulekha.com/news/nhc.aspx?cid=433963
Jihadi politics currently ruining India has been taking a heavy toll for the past several decades, if not centuries. If you dont get awake, it might lead to anarchy.

Power of vote bank and number politics is the root cause of this problem of ethnic cleansing of Kashmir, now Kerala, then Assam...etc.
Dont confuse between Mr Modi and this. Modi got no help from army in time and did all he could and quelled riots in less than 3 days. He was after jihadis.

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Posted by *Satya* on Sep 12, 2005

"By that logic, Martin Luther Kings statement about being judged by the content of our characters would indicate that there was no institutionalised racism in the US in the 1950s. Does that really make sense?"

--Martin Luther King said in his famous 'I Have a Dream' Speech that he DREAMT of his four little children being judged by the content of their characters rather than the color of their skins.

He didn't say 'my children ARE judged by the content of their characters'. He said his children were being judged by the color of their skins, (ie. he pointed out there WAS a consistent attitude towards his children, to whit, institutionalized racism) and he said he had 'a Dream' when that would not be the case.

It's one thing to misconstrue the Mahabharata, but now Dr. Martin Luther King too? tut-tut, Zafar-bhai...

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PS to Fareena Raza - what? India is colonized by Muslims? Really? Now, that's news to me!
Weird how people around here are so busy chasing windmills. On one hand we have one set of people crashing headlong into Drona's "casteism" and on the other, we have another set of people all set with their lances at "Islamists" (whatever those are).
Well, well, good hunting o ye Don Quixotes, wherever you are

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Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Sep 11, 2005

Thanks to the phony mahatma, Gandhi, India with minimal Hinduism is the only nation where the perverse discrimination against majority Hindu population has been systematically and routinely institutionalised to the extent of not allowing them any significant political space or right to their ancient temple sites.

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Islamists, Get Out by Daniel Pipes New York Sun August 30, 2005

Australia's education minister, Brendan Nelson, also on August 24 urged immigrants to "commit to the Australian constitution, Australian rule of law." If not, "they can basically clear off." Geert Wilders, head of his own small party in the Dutch parliament, similarly called for the expulsion of non-citizen immigrants who refuse to integrate.

But it was the British shadow defense minister, Gerald Howarth, who went the furthest, suggesting in early August that all British Islamists must go. "If they don't like our way of life, there is a simple remedy: Go to another country, get out." He directed this principle even to Islamists born in Britain, as were three of the four London bombers: "If you don't give allegiance to this country, then leave."
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When are we going to say emphatically "Shape up or ship out!" to the hate-mongering evil greedy, dishonest and fascist islamist devils? Where are the benevolent 'enforcers'?

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Posted by Fareena Raza on Sep 11, 2005

Mr Nam's model if inclusive of evil-doers, might address the caste system among the muslims and christians. 'Nadar' christians still obviously retain their Nadar identity. I cited several pieces of concrete evidence of how casteism is prevalent in Pakistan and among converted Dalits too.

There was no rigid caste system per se in ancient India. Thus, Viswamithr, a kshatriya, became a brahmin type rishi and Parashuram, a Brahmin became a King like a kshatriya, and so on..Even now, many Brahmins are running many kinds of business, non-Brahmins are teachers if not preachers..and so on...

Even Ravan had many brahmin like practices and qualities, save for his lust that brought his downfall. Like a semi-moralist, he did not **rape** his captive, unlike the very many present day anti-Hindu rapists like the one that abducted Ms Kanchan Misra, until the women's organisation, NOW, had to rescure her. (The wars of yore had rules and boundaries like not fighting after dark, not attacking the civilians and so on... until the brutal muslim invaders broke all the rules and institutionalised serial mass murders and covert and overt rapes to date).

If the illegal occupation of Hindustan by muslims ends or if they and their goondas are brought to justice for their continuing criminality, there might be some restoration of proper morals and values.
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Posted by Munir.Akram on Sep 10, 2005
Seetha-ji, Ask deepsh*t not to hide behind a phony name, ask her to remove her stinky diaper face-mask and to cover the rest of her stinky naked body! [There is a remote possiblity that coming from a woman, she might pay heed to your valuable advice!]

I hope you will ignore this stupid ignorant devil who knows nothing but emitting nauseating stinky noise from her stinkier behind. Even savages might be less arrogant, less adamant and less aggressive.

As other decent types, I too value your **fact-based** posts rather than juvenile tantrums of a basement filth-pile, messing up every valid discussion with filthy circus baazee or stinky daada-giri!..!

I am quite sure everyone loves your truthful treatment of every subject here,
with a pragmatic, disciplined and mature approach!!



Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Sep 10, 2005

[[[ZAFAR: "Also you cannot make a Muslim a slave, and if a slave converts to Islam the owner must set him/her free]]] says it all!

'White' islamist has to be a (greedy fascist) 'honcho' and keep dark slaves until they become muslims who can then be set free if they yield to be sex slaves as in Darfur where white islamists are raping dark muslims to this **day** for the past several decades despite repeated International outcry, protests and clamour!

Sri Kak-ji, Is not the dynastic birth based monarchy of arabia, uk, moracco - a type of **casteism** as the monarchy is purely by force of birth in a royal family?


Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Sep 10, 2005

Munir Bhai,
Another solid example of greedy animal abrahamics versus smart and self-less Indics might be, compared to the Wipro greedy fascist, Dabbawalas of Mumbai have proved themselves to be many millions times super smart and egalitarian Hindutvadis unlike our greedy and dishonest fascist minority!

I was pleasantly surprised at the recent news item that their smart self-less coop is globally recognised and even admired!

You may remember, even Prince Charles invited their top seemingly "unpad" elite for his civil wedding that his mother refused to attend, because he was marrying a nair type (not violent naxal though) commoner !!!

Same fascist liar goes on:=
"Secularism has a strong tradition here since the days of Enlightenment."

You may remember, in the name of 'secularism', the French confiscated all church property and wealth too right after French revolution and at other times (and reduced the church to isolated pockets now with lack of priests forcing them to import them from Africa)!..! Can a Hindutvadi so grab church property in India? Can he/she even mention or talk about it? The fact Hindutvadi doesn't and cant even get back Ayodhya what is rightfully his/her, shows the extent of discrimination against the majority and neo-colonial brutal domination by the greedy and dishonest fascist minority allowed to grow wildly like weeds in India!

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Fascist lie again by a playboy playing with your lives whose gang is running killing fields in India for the last several centuries - ie how such animals mafia-intimidated Mr Agneya Panja:=
[[[I could have played that against him till he looses his cool completely.

-Belief is not demanded. It is an expression of your own will. "persuasion" and "force" are fundamentalistic elements. You are mixing the two.]]]

Besides 'eternal hell' as in "But as I have said previously scaring people with eternal hell is not "encouragement" in my book," all kinds of mafia intimidation and mogul tax type greedy direct and indirect evil antics are being abused over several centuries by the minority catholics to dominate the majority in academic admission, job selection, hospital treatment - pure discrimination of worse-than-animal type.

This is plain lie too
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You should know that in France, Christians (and others) are NOT allowed (by law) to wear crosses (or other religious markers) in their attire to school.
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Cross is allowed but not head-scarf in France - only big cross is not allowed; in fact, it is its anti-muslim rules are the toughest among euro nations and even german school system said 'no' to muslim scarfs saying, "ours is a christian country with christian identity" or a similar fanatic bigotry. You can't even imagine a Hindutvadi saying that. They never do and never will as he/she is highly evolved and enlightened angels compared to abrahamic vulgar greedy fascists.

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Posted by Munir.Akram on Sep 10, 2005

Historical records and contemporary events both show both types of anti-Indians - christians and islamists - have been using savage attacks and manipulative cultural assaults.
These are very valid observations:=
"What do we christians call the Spanish and Portuguese inquisitions then? If that was not force I don't know what is. We have a strange definition of persuasion. Also, what about all the goodies we freely give out to "persuade" people today to convert. What about all those tribals and Hindus murdered in the northeast for refusing to be "persuaded" to convert or denied admission into medical schools and other schools for not believing in christ-insanity. What a load of tripe."

Begum Raza's documentation is a valid proof, they prey upon their own vulnerable too:=
What a sad commentary on Islam!!!!!!!
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Gang Rape for 'Honor'
The ordeal of the impoverished lower caste Gujjar family started ..the boy's father, was told to bring one of his five daughters - failing which all the women in his family would be raped. With no option left, Farid brought Mukhtiar, his eldest daughter, to bear the brunt of the verdict.
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They don’t do any good either:=
"Thus, the leftists like Anand Nair could have prevented the worst types of exploitation like by corporate crooks like ENRON, AMWAY, COCO COLA,
COLGATE..ETC AND SHODDY FORD OR HUYNDAI, AND EVIL PRODUCTS LIKE CIGARETTES AND LIQUOR AND OPIUM
BASED NARCOTICS. They "have been the main source and major cause of hundreds of recurring national crises."

There is plenty of evidence given here to prove
what Seetha-ji calls "whimsical savagery". Is that all not evidence of a criminal mind-set at the maximum and disgraceful attitude at the minimum among Indian minority.

Nuns and bishops are supposed to pray! But they prey on the weak and the vulnerable for their own greedy and vulgar animal and base criminality!

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Posted by AmericanForIndia on Sep 7, 2005

Again I see "chauvinistic fantasia" of anti-Hindus is running amok. Following the great example here:
"Does that mean no "alien culture" or no tricky views like p-secularism and p-democracy will be thrust on all of us, no ban on Hon Sri Togadia to move freely in his own country or speak his mind freely, no expectations of cultural homogeneity by catholic and arabic conversion mafia, no force to learn this or that language like urdu or arabic in madrasas, finally,
[Hurrah!] no sharia binding muslim women to eternal hell allowing them to date us! That is wonderful. No one would object, I am sure,"
those that pen them can perhaps be partly civilized by turn around their phrases:

"Looks like many people still continue to believe in the Myth of [colonial] hegemony."

"There were [simi pigs in AMU], ...Are they not muslims?"

"And then this minority can be ‘properly’ [held to account and may be made to pay for their criminality] by the majority?

Coming to reality and reacting to Mr Nam here:
"However, once Aurangzeb started out with old Sunni methods of temple destruction, jizya etc, the empire unraveled and Hindu kings wreaked havoc on the fading Mughals. And in the end, it was the immensely crafty Shia Jinnah who had studied the British and Hindu psyche, demanded Partition and got it."

It is the muslims and christians who believe in their fascist superiority and their inherent or God-given right to practise religious colonialism by "conversion/cultural assaults"

ANOTHER SEWER LEVEL FASCIST LIE BY A SPIN MISTRESS TO DEMONIZE BRAHMINS/CASTE SYSTEM THAT IS PREVALENT IN FAKISTAN [AND CONVERTED DALITS] too, acg to Fareena:

"In Europe, it is the the middle classes, consisting of the craftsmen ("Shudra") and the traders ("Vaisya") of that society, who overthrew the meritless dominance of the clergy ("Brahmin") and the aristocracy ("Kshatriya"), to herald the Industrial Revolution!"

How could there have been Industrial Revolution sans engineers and scientists [called knowledge workers these days] who were like Brahmins of yore, Susrutha, Bhaskara and modern age Dr C.V. Raman, Dr K.S. Krishnan, Dr S. Chandrasekhar, .. ? All down the ages, the blue collar workers **supported** the while collar knowledge workers! Even teen-agers know this!
Brahmins now do want every job filled by merit not in the name of caste or religion. You now have a blatant reverse discrimination that even our Blacks don’t enjoy by way of any QUOTA system. Bush has been very vocal against all quota systems here in USA.

Jinnah was instrumental in institutionalizing his campaign of savage terror that he called DIRECT ACTION [unleashed in fakistan too on HIndus after dismemberment] and other mafia antics that is used even currently to hold up the neo-colonial [i.e. neo-mogul colonial] barbaric power
to date. One of his cunning tricks was to ask for more than reasonable and then get exactly what he wanted.

THUS, HE WANTED **ONE THIRD** SEATS, THOUGH MUSLIMS WERE ONLY 25% AND GOT SEPARATE HOMELAND AND DUMPED 100+ MILLION CRIMINAL BURDEN ON INDIA AS WELL, PERMANENTLY. WHAT AN EVIL BUT SUCCESSFUL TRICK! HITLER WAS NOT
SO COWARDLY EVIL BUT CRUDELY SO!..! Sadly, neo-nazism and apartheid type neo-colonialism [whereby minority rule the majority by brute force] continues to this day in India and you have dangerous p-secs to keep it alive!


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Will justice ever be done for the serial mass murders of Hindus by savage muslim barbaric devils? It is all about safety and security. Islamists have put you all in constant danger and risk, having killed so often and in so many places of India, ever since brutal invasion nine centuries ago. The conclusion is they have been neither civilized nor contrite.

The case of murder of nine for remarks of American in far away USA and many other similar pogroms stand out as the most ***serious, clear and compelling*** evidence that they have *unlimited* freedom and *excessive rights* in India though left as illegitimate burden on Indians in 1947.

These anti-national **criminal** communalists are clearly enjoying *excessive* rights - rights to kill at will - unchecked and unpunished/ unlimited crimes - with unlimited freedom to kill, rape and riot anywhere, any time - partial list of oher pogroms have been:[leave alone lies spread by fellow criminals]:-

After an old unused bldg called babri was reclaimed by the natives, 3000+ true Indian citizens were indeed slaughtered that 'black' December 6 - by incitement of Delhi imam. (The imam is still roaming freely as a fugitive of the law of the land. Is he above the law of land? He is). As are countless other murderers for other pogroms such as POGROMS
* when british arrested caliph of turkey, a rampage in Kerala saw slaughter of 1000's of Hindus;

* in 1969, when israeli army entered al-aqsa mosque thousands of miles away, Hindus were butchered - for no fault;
* when nine Hindus were killed in Sholapur MH under the pretext of protesting an American's [Jerry Falwell] remarks in far away USA;
* when the muslims rioted in parts of Mumbai specifically targeting Hindu property while protesting against the already banned rushdie's book called satanic verses;
* tens savagely slaughtered at the Gateway of India during twin blasts of Bombay, MARAD, GODHRA, temples, trains and buses for no apparent reason;
* 1946 or thereabouts the Muslim atrocities butchered 1000’s of Hindus under the Government patronage of Suhrawardy in Noakhali that made your blood boil;
* when the anti-Indians went on rampage causing injury to people and damage to property when USA attacked Iraq;
* thousands murdered for a pig running by an unholy mosque;
* when the criminal colonialists often stone Hindu street functions;
* 32 Hindus were killed in the savage attack of Akshardham temple;
* "Black Friday" of March 12, 1993 when 257 lives were savagely slaughtered injuring 713 - serial blasts that shattered the city; etc

all proving excessive rights of the vulgar muslim criminal brutes. Most of them have **escaped** the long arm of justice too. None of these criminals have been brought to justice. These rats are hiding in rat holes of so-called moderate muslim vermins.

Are these UNPUNISHED (and many more *unreported *) killings and damage of property of people justified?
The savage islamists are the ones who took law into their hands while the Hindus being poor, are forced to take their own lives, with nothing left to live for. Even now, you expect the Hindus to avenge against the evil muslims' countless pogroms by **boycotts**, given Hindus' hopeless condition. It is superhuman and noble of them not to do anything; but foolish of them to continue on suicide binge that surely worsens the family situation.

Why are the police not pursuing fugitives of such cases threatening our very national security? Law of the land does not apply to them? Are they above the law? But wasting time on minor crimes like Jallianwala Bagh type arrest of patriot, Ms Uma Bharati?

Even though the Indians have been silent targets of zillion serial mass murders inflicted on them by vulgar brutes, most of the criminal pogroms (ever since 1200AD by barbaric muslims) have gone by, with no backlash or reprisal. PostGodhra was a rarity indeed - even that is in doubt, my thesis is that those riots were again staged by the savage muslim devils).

2. Excessive defense spending has been imposed by the war mongering pakkis who have invaded your territory more than three times and caused horrendous loss of lives and propery;
3. The burden of supporting 130+mil vermins left dumped on you plus 18 mil illegal banglas must be draining too;

How about postGodhra? When Governments of USA, ISRAEL, FRANCE ..can retaliate,
why not Hon Mr Modi? Is he not to protect the majority, his very constituency that
voted him to power? Even Iraqi PM, ALLAWI, said he wanted to PROTECT
THE MAJORITY and he didn't mind civilian casualty in Falujah and he was not
gonna talk to the islamists and he was ordering major offensive to 'bring them to justice'.
Hence, you Hindus have the perfect right to defend you selves too. You need to publicize this right loud and clear.

For, neither the unlimited freedom of the murderous muslim villains, nor the limitless support for those murders by the media and educated moderate muslims to murder, has been stressed well enough. Today on Dec 25th 2004, Americans declared arrest of several for the Mosul, Iraq attack. That is the sort of swift justice that was or has been needed. Ever heard of the expression, "Justice delayed is justice denied"?

Boycott needs to begin with your women and children being told the right thing - to dissociate with the hate mongering criminals. Even when they bring down the population to 9.5%, you cant yet quit boycotting, leaving millions of fugitive barbaric criminals roaming the streets freely, ready to commit more savage atrocities." Boycott all dealings with the hateful serial killers, deceitful usurpers and bigoted rapists!

Minority of India represent religious colonialism and **long criminal history** of violating Hindus in every way possible. Even after death, they take your land for their burial, cause population skew not practicing birth control, abuse you in all forum, rob our rights in our own ancient homeland. Put a stop to this right now. Donate to IDRF and save our ancient culture!..! Boycott minority schools and business!! And the business of bloodthirsty “pedophile cultist fanatic" Islamic brutes too!!.!

Jun 11 2004 : Miriam the Jew comments on BOOK REVIEW: The inscrutable Indians: Being Indian by Pavan K Varma: Being Indian by Pavan K Varma (Asia Times)
To Kalam Fan Club, he stabbed the BJP folks who put him on this throne by saying 'Nation has rejected divisiveness' (Times of India) right after the elections.

Today, he said something like "fight communal forces" as if he can be safely excluded from being one among such a force. (Whoever calls the other an IDIOT cant be an idiot kind of logic!)

What is shown by this type of behavior is that being at the top and so being above reproach, he is making himself the darling of those on the side of the "right" values! With Indian cultism, no one can question him, unless he murders!

However, with Bollywood Khans, it is even more cultist power that can get them freed even after murders.
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Jul 10 2004 : KT.Rao comments on Germany's database plan alarms Muslims (Dawn)
Islamist is the word now used to characterize a criminal muslim suspect linked to terrorism and can potentially catch almost all of our Muslim population, since most may actively support criminality of one type or other. (Like Miriam, I hope too that I am wrong! I hope this is a minor fraction).

Islamism is new one on me. Perhaps, Islamism is what the Islamist practises, I guess!!

Talking about collusion, even the recent case of LeT criminals being supported by the local subverted perverts, Javed Pillai and his girl friend, is still fresh in our minds.

When hundreds of thousands of them put up Pakistani flags not in Gujarat or Mumbai but in Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, I began to think this has gone way beyond all reasonable limits of seditious criminality - treason being punishable by death in most nations.

Like Germany, we too need a database to track all these evil criminals that can potentially commit serial murders.
Jai Hind!!
Jul 10 2004 : Miriam the Jew comments on Sonia almost Indira-like, says Talbott (Sify.com)
"if only hindus realise the power of media!!"

Yes, but equally powerful is the tool of PROTESTS AND BOYCOTT. Murderous muslim villains get rich when you buy their CDs, DVDs, Phone Cards, all the corruptive consumerism they peddle and trade in. Someone use the statement, "stop the blood supply to the cancerous cells.'

I disagree with this, "India and all others who are fighting Musilm terrorists have plenty to learn
from Israel. The only way to fight islamic terrorism is by brute force nothing less. "

All Hindus must endorse that view and act on it. Power to the Hindus!



Jul 10 2004 : Miriam the Jew comments on Islamic ‘terrorism’ hurting Muslim world: Musharraf (Jan Group)
"militant islam can be tamed "

This man is sadly mistaken. We can neither tame them nor shame them.

Today NPR of USA talked about journalists in Egypt being killed for reporting against terrorists much like the reporter of Russian Forbes was murdered today in Moscow for exposing the nexus between the rich and mafia.

Many of Bollywood muslims (and possibly even Hindu actors) and the Mumbai underworld are inexorably linked in criminal nexus. I remember reading how one Akhtar killed another Hindu music director in 1997, escaped to the Gulf; Rukh Khan was one of the suspects.

One of these Khans openly said in an interview the link to the Mumbai mafia gives him "power" and that Bollywood is but part of the whole society at large, meaning the whole society is criminal and one can't question if Bollywood is a microcosmic representative. I never heard such a clever argument like that.

The same Rukh Khan - muslim actor - put the blame on the judge when charged with fraud by his estate broker, saying what the judge did was illegal, arbitrary and constituted abuse of power!! India is the only place where such things can happen!

Hindus need all the power they can get!



Jul 10 2004 : Miriam the Jew comments on India's population of 102.8 crores will exceed Chinese by 2035 (Hindu)
"This POPULATION BOMB will blow up in India's face if not properly tackled and India can forget about becoming a SUPER POWER by 2050."

It is not the quantity of the population that matters or what the problem is but the quality. With rubbish criminal quality that most(most? - hope I wrong) of the minority is, the whole nation spirals down to a culture of violating rule of law. There is strong evidence that this is already happening because we see even Hindus subverted to aid muslims commit crimes and often independently too such as tax evasion, traffiking in women..etc. We read TOI reporting Call Girl racket run by Hindus. POWER TO THE HINDUS!



Jul 10 2004 : Miriam the Jew comments on Puki LeT terrrorists are getting help from INDIAN MUSLIMS (Indian Express)
Bodhi tree and Population issue need to take a back seat to this issue of NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERN.

When someone said, "It is true. Most Muslims ... are merely terrorist sympathizers." I wrote, "No, not just "sympathizers" but active supporters, giving MATERIAL AND LOGISTIC SUPPORT to acts of criminal murders as in GODHRA, MARAD, TWIN BALSTS, blasts in trains, buses, temples..etc.

W/o local support, even LeT cant complete such heinous acts of barbarism and now they are getting both educatIon and job reservation courtesy of DrMMS whom I respect more than Kalam. Now that respect is waning.

Power to the law-abiding, divine and the noblest of the world, the Hindus whose evil persecution must end!! Hindusthan for Hindus!! "

muslims of India bite the hand that feeds them. It was the gravest mistake of Gandhi-Nehru to let them stay back and be a criminal burden for several decades. The leaders did not build one university for the Dalits but built more than three I know of, for these criminal society. POWER TO THE HINDUS!
Also Godhra train burning was lead by Moh. Kalota who was a Municipal Councillor belonging to Kaangress Partei.

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BOSNIA, RWANDA, CONGO, SUDAN all have seen genocide and even U.N could not do much. Many riots in USA like L.A riots after Rodney King trial, Cincinnatti riots, Benton Harbor riots all went on and on ...with the best police of the world and their best equipment, unable to stop or prevent them.

The authorities could not control any of the above. And yet, some subversive perverts blame HIs Excellency Modi for post-Godhra. HE ABLY CONTAINED IT TO A FEW TOWNS. AND WAS PRAISED BY INTL PRESS. Unlike the Nero-Kalam who was fiddling or writing books to sell, HOn Modi was competently minimizing losses on all sides. More HIndus again got killed or got acid on their face or got property damaged. More HIndus helped the remaining evil devils.

What an evil irony?

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Jul 9 2004 : AmericanForIndia comments on Three women raped by 40 men in MP village (Hindustan Times)
"India needs some kind of revolutoin to get this law and order straightened up. Unfortuanately the poor are at the losing end. "

All weak and vulnerable are losing for centuries, especially by the serial murders of vulgar muslim brutes.


Today's news talked about concepts like GROUP-THINK and Assumption Train in

the context of "global intel failure" and lack of contrarian view in the

run upto Iraq War!!! All this is applicable to the crisis in India where

the civil society is under constant violent attack that is persistent and

imminent on the vulnerable and silent majority. Most might be engineered by

the western barbarians who are good at weaving Webs of Mass Deception,

besides proliferating real WMDs. They have been puppeteering Indian

muslims who in turn are always in denial, deceit and deception.

One theory is that even in postGodhra riots, villainous muslims might be

implicated. The fact that postGodhra nearly equal number of Hindus died too

and got acid in their face clearly proves, the villains were perhaps

continuing their arsonist killing spree on fellow ***poor*** muslims and

spreading lies. For centuries on end, they have been running killing fields
with little or **no** legal consequence. This is another prime reason for the validity of this hypothesis. Plus, they are basically not worthy of any
trust, having gotten away with serial murders thru brazen lies for decades
if not centuries. Chicanery is normal in the lives of the muslim
charlatans. The abduction case of Hasoun from Iraq was declared a big HOAX

by authorities of USA.

When recently four terrorists were prevented from murdering top leaders

like Mr Modi, it is the police that got the blame. In a recent muslim mob

violent attack on a police station, again some said police might have
perhaps provoked the mob!!!

This is not the first time lies and hatred are
being spread!! This has been going on for several decades now, if not
centuries. Justice is based on
truth. When so much truth is suppressed or twisted, how can there be any justice for the broader civil society who have been persecuted for centuries by muslims adn then by christians ?

Such media lies undermine public safety, destabize the economy, and generally polarize the communities. No wonder rule by majority does not prevail in India and no wonder colonialism and communism thrives. Long live Hindutva!

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Jul 10 2004 : Miriam the Jew comments on Puki LeT terrrorists are getting help from INDIAN MUSLIMS (Indian Express)
Bodhi tree and Population issue need to take a back seat to this issue of NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERN.

When someone said, "It is true. Most Muslims ... are merely terrorist sympathizers." I wrote, Most Muslims ...are not just "sympathizers" but active supporters, giving MATERIAL AND LOGISTIC SUPPORT to acts of criminal murders as in GODHRA, MARAD, TWIN BALSTS, blasts in trains, buses, temples..etc.

W/o local support, even LeT cant complete such heinous acts of barbarism and now they are getting both educatIon and job reservation courtesy of DrMMS whom I respect more than Kalam. Now that respect is waning.

Power to the law-abiding, divine and the noblest of the world, the Hindus whose evil persecution must end!! Hindusthan for Hindus!! "

Murderous muslims of India bite the hand that feeds them. It was the gravest mistake of Gandhi-Nehru to let them stay back and be a criminal burden for several decades. The leaders did not build one university for the Dalits but built more than three I know of, for these criminal society. POWER TO THE HINDUS!
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Jul 10 2004 : Miriam the Jew comments on Islamic ‘terrorism’ hurting Muslim world: Musharraf (Jan Group)
"millitant islam can be tamed "

This man is sadly mistaken. We can neither tame them nor shame them.

Today NPR of USA talked about journalists in Egypt being killed for reporting against terrorists much like the reporter of Russian Forbes was murdered today in Moscow for exposing the nexus between the rich and mafia.

Many of Bollywood muslims (and possibly even Hindu actors) and the Mumbai underworld are inexorably linked in criminal nexus. I remember reading how one Akhtar killed another Hindu music director in 1997, escaped to the Gulf; Rukh Khan was one of the suspects.

One of these Khans openly said in an interview the link to the Mumbai mafia gives him "power" and that Bollywood is but part of the whole society at large, meaning the whole society is criminal and one can't question if Bollywood is a microcosmic representative. I never heard such a clever argument like that.

The same Rukh Khan - muslim actor - put the blame on the judge when charged with fraud by his estate broker, saying what the judge did was illegal, arbitrary and constituted abuse of power!! India is the only place where such things can happen!

Hindus need all the power they can get!





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Jul 10 2004 : AmericanForIndia comments on Nehru Award conferred on Goh (Hindu)
Citation is good enough! Cash award must be stopped!!! The elite is doing absolutely nothing not even protesting. For how long will this go on? Long live Hindutva!
Jul 9 2004 : AmericanForIndia comments on Flying an American Dream - A battle for the India-US market is underway as more airlines fly into the picture (Business Std.)
"Only thing I hate is the toilet situation on Air India flights though :). Many first time "air" travelers, so it turns messy within couple of hours of flight."

Traveling with British cricketeers, toilet situation was the most embarassing thing during our flight.
One is expected to clean after use by one self. (Didnt your moms teach you that?!) Long live Hindutva!

Jul 9 2004 : AmericanForIndia comments on a reason to hate hindi (and its promoters) (Telegraph (UK))
"what hindi speaking states should do is implement "three languages formula" and teach hindi, english and a southern language in the north. "

Excellent idea to unite the naiton! Northies I find as very arrogant, exploitative and vain. They have bought up real estate and jacked up the prices, though int'l MNCs are partly to blame. Long live Hindutva and Dravidian culture !

Jul 9 2004 : AmericanForIndia comments on Techies' parents are a lonely lot (Economic Times)
Yes, economic power brings respect! Service sector is booming in India and the momentum needs to be kept up!!!

Long live Hindutva!
Jul 9 2004 : AmericanForIndia comments on Three women raped by 40 men in MP village (Hindustan Times)
One woman in the muslim ghetto of Paris was gagng raped by many muslim youths and no one came froward to admit it.

In Sudan is Darfur. Darfur's BLACKs are muslims too! But what they face is RAPE CAMPS, systematic and organized genocide and cleansing!! Is this commandment of God via Quran too?

Darfur is hence a fine example where black muslims have seen too many RAPE CAMPS run by Arab muslims. They are now aided by U.N as victims of ethnic cleansing.

Secularism and justice are often selectively applied by the muslim fascists. That is the vulgar brutality of the hateful serial killers. It is as if persecution and oppression of Hindus for over six hundred years is not enough.

To quote myself,
Hindutva is naturally the GOOD thing in Hindusthan!
Hindutva is obviously the RIGHT thing too in Hindusthan!
In 1947 when the muslims went their own way, HINDUTVA was implied.

The land is theirs, others are merely unwanted guests who need
to learn to accommmodate by getting civilized and integrated!

Dalits, Sikhs, Jains and Budhists are accommmodating and are being responsible nonviolent citizens!

Long live Hindutva and Hindu cause!
Jul 9 2004 : AmericanForIndia comments on Flying an American Dream - A battle for the India-US market is underway as more airlines fly into the picture (Business Std.)
Both the governments are anti-Indians!

Better enrich Mother land flying AIR-INDIA!!! Be Indian abd buy Indian slogan is still valid! Be Hindu and buy Hindu's might even be better still!!! Long live Hindutva!



Jul 9 2004 : AmericanForIndia comments on 24 idols of Hindu gods and goddesses vandalised in Kanniyakumari district (News Today)
"There is no escape from caste system if you are a hindu."

I see Nadar xian not marrying other castes. So, this man is a balatant liar. Casteism goes not after conversion. Long live Hindutva!

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Kalam has shown every indication that he loves Pakistan driving us to her arms, opening the borders by massive infiltration and making money off the backs of Hindus, by selling books and peddling CDs.

He is not surely not proIndia in all probability. PRO-ISRAEL STAND MIGHT MEAN HE GOT SOME MONEY FROM THE JEWS? We cannot prove anything though.
Jai Hind!!
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Jun 12 2004 : KT.Rao comments on Jihad in action : Muslims kill Hindu children in the valley (Times of India)
daadaajee, Let us give NONVIOLENT response by way of massive boycotts of their business, as Modi did in Gujarat with some success. Jai Hind!!!
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Jun 12 2004 : KT.Rao comments on Indian(Islamist) held in Dubai for selling nuke secrets (Times of India)
How about Kalam? Is he likely to indulge in traitorous behaviour? Or has he done it? Or is he doing it?
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"u cannot oppress an indigenous people and stay in peace .. i do not agree with muslim terrorism ..."

Oppression of indigenous Hindus and others is happening for the past several centuries in India and media has been manipulated to side wit the rent-a-riot dishonest greedy savage muslims and trickier Christians. Look what you have - almost nothing!

Poverty is driving
* your women to sell their bodies and men to work at slave labor wages and
* 400+ million poor have no where to turn to
* farmer and student suicides are mounting.

The West is sucking your blood by AmWay, ENRON, COLA, COLGATE, TOI/Bennett-Coleman and other such corporate crooks. The elite is doing absolutely nothing not even protesting or boycotting. For how long will this go on?
Long live Hindutva!

"Only thing I hate is the toilet situation on Air India flights though :). Many first time "air" travelers, so it turns messy within couple of hours of flight."

Traveling with British cricketeers, toilet situation was the most embarassing thing during our flight.
One is expected to clean after use by one self. (Didnt your moms teach you that?!) Long live Hindutva!
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Both the governments are anti-Indians!

Better enrich Mother land flying AIR-INDIA!!! Be Indian abd buy Indian slogan is still valid! Be Hindu and buy Hindu's might even be better still!!! Long live Hindutva!
Jun 12 2004 : KT.Rao comments on Yuva Morcha(BJP) activist stabbed to death (By Muslim activitsts) (Hindu)
This is not the first time such stabbing has occurred.

Not being raised to riot level by retaliation, evil terrorism and serial murders go on, on a weekly basis if not daily basis. (It might be daily if all the news are well reported).

Most go **without** any reprisal or counter offensive response in backlash, that not many are noticing or reporting to the press. We beter highlight this to the world press. Jai Hind!!
ECONOMY: Keeping up with peers — II —Ravian

The economic challenges for the incoming technocratic Prime Minister are clear: the technological sophistication of what we produce must be improved and the social welfare gaps with our peers reduced

In the last thirty years, our economic structure has not evolved in a satisfactory manner. Last week (Keeping up with peers (I), Friday July 2), we discussed the lack of technical sophistication of what we produce compared to our peers in South Asia (Indian and Bangladesh). We also saw how rapidly China and Thailand had progressed up the technological ladder compared to South Asia.

But what we produce is only one dimension, albeit a vital one, of the economic structure. What about the people? After all, the evolution of economic structures must have a salutary impact on the lives of ordinary people, otherwise what good is the development path?

To review the social impact of the development path, let us again focus on the last three decades, our peers in South Asia (India and Bangladesh) and also China and Thailand. The latter because three decades ago, they were a lot like us on most dimensions of development.

First, population. In 32 years, we added 84 million fellow citizens, which more than doubled our population from 61 million in 1970 to 145 million in 2002. Meanwhile, there were 500 million more Indians (548 million to 1049 million, less than double), 70 million more Bangladeshis (67 million to 136 million, slightly more than doubled), 26 million more Thais (36 million 62million, less than doubled) and 360 million more Chinese (818 million to 1280 million; only 50 percent more). Clearly, we threw up the largest challenge to our resources since more people means more needs for basic services such as education, health, infrastructure, law and order, food, clothing, housing etc.

The rate of population growth in itself tells an interesting story. A rapid decline in population growth associated with declining fertility rates reflects a profound change in the way people look at children. It shows that parents care more for the quality of children than merely their number, and that they are willing to spend income on adequate nourishment and proper education of their children. This switch in attitudes towards children reflects optimism about future prospects of employment and income.

In 1970, the population growth rate of China and Thailand, at about three percent per annum, was a lot like ours. India, on the other hand, with a population growth rate of just above 2 percent, was beginning to make a dent. By 2002, both China and Thailand had made great strides in bringing down their population growth rates lowering to well below 1 percent. India’s was still at 1.6 percent and Bangladesh’s at 1.7 percent.

What about us? Well, our population growth rate crept down to 2.2 percent form a high of 3 percent 30 years. More recent demographic research shows that an impressive demographic change is now ongoing and that over the next five to ten years our population growth rate will fall rapidly to below 1.5 percent. So, it appears that our attitudes towards children have started to change and that Pakistani parents now want to spend more on fewer children to equip them with the skills that generate better paying jobs.

Population growth and changing economic structures also affect where people to live. In 1990, nearly a quarter of our population lived in urban areas and we were more urbanized compared to India (20 percent) and Bangladesh (8 percent) and also China (17percent) and Thailand (13 percent). In the last thirty years, China has urbanized rapidly and now 38 percent of the population lives in cities. We are second at 34 percent, India is third at 28 percent and three times as many Bangladeshis (26 percent) now live in cities compared to thirty years ago. This trend underscores the need to increase resources for service delivery in urban areas.

How did the average citizen do in the last 32 years in terms of income growth? Per capita GDP growth captures this very well. The average Pakistani’s income in this period increased from $170 to $420. How good should we feel about it? Well, let us see how our peers performed. The average Indian’s income creased from $110 to $470 (four fold) and the average Bangladeshi’s from $120 to $380 (three fold). But wait. The average Thai’s income in this period increased from $210 to $2000 or ten fold and the average Chinese’s nine fold from $120 to $960. Do you still feel good?

But what about the poor, those at the bottom of the social order?. One way to assess their lot is to take a level of consumption that allows one to meet basic needs (food, clothing , housing etc; it would be about Rs 50 per person per day) and then count the number of people whose income does not permit them to meet these needs. In 1985 (comparable data doesn’t allow us to go further back), 45 percent of our fellow citizens lived in poverty. This number, despite the stagnation in the 1990’s, is down to about 32 percent. In India, the percent of poor fell from 35 to 25 and in Bangladesh poverty has remained stuck at 48 percent. On the other hand, poverty in China is now well below 10 percent and in Thailand just above 10 percent.

And what have we done to arm the poor with tools to escape poverty. Most people would agree that the greatest gift we can give the poor is education. To paraphrase Mao, this is akin to giving the poor a fishing tackle, which is much better than handing out fish. Let us see our performance here relative to the peers. It turns out that China and Thailand cared more for their average citizens and provided many more of them with education did the South Asians even in 1970. The literacy rate in Thailand and China was 80 and 53 percent respectively. In the last 32 years their respective literacy rates have gone up to 93 and 91 percent. South Asian literacy rates (25 percent in Bangladesh, 21 percent in Pakistan, and 33 percent in India) were substantially lower. And they have remained so thirty years later (41 percent in Bangladesh and Pakistan, 57 percent in India).

It is said that if you educate a girl, you educate the whole nation. China and Thailand adheres to this and their female literacy is now almost the level of male literacy. Not so in South Asia. In India, Bangladesh and Pakistan female literacy is abysmally low at 25, 30 and 29 percent respectively.

The economic challenges faced by the incoming technocratic Prime Minister are clear. *


Jul 9 2004 : AmericanForIndia comments on Israel's Intifada Victory-How to Fight TERROR ? (Wash. Post)
"u cannot oppress an indigenous people and stay in peace .. i do not agree with muslim terrorism ..."

Oppression of indigenous Hindus and others is happening for the past several centuries in India and media has been manipulated to side with the rent-a-riot dishonest greedy savage muslims and trickier Christians. Look what you have - almost nothing!

Poverty is driving
* your women to sell their bodies and men to work at slave labor wages and
* 400+ million poor have no where to turn to
* farmer and student suicides are mounting.
* The West is sucking your blood by AmWay, ENRON, COLA, COLGATE, TOI/Bennett-Coleman and other such corporate crooks.
* The elite is doing absolutely nothing not even protesting or boycotting.

For how long will this go on?
Long live Hindutva!
"if only hindus realise the power of media!!"

Yes, but equally powerful is the tool of PROTESTS AND BOYCOTT. Murderous muslim villains get rich when you buy their CDs, DVDs, Phone Cards, all the corruptive consumerism they peddle and trade in. Someone use the statement, "stop the blood supply to the cancerous cells.'

All HIndus must endorse that view adn act on it. Power to the Hindus!

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Jun 11 2004 : Miriam the Jew comments on Thousands Of Christian Schools Planned In India (BBC)
Christians are less violent, less villainous and less fascist too!!

But pray tell us that Jiziya as you say here "One reason this was made into law was to satisfy the desire of Muslims to have Jiziya for Hindus," is still happening and is still a law in post-1947 India?

To us, this is the single most atrocious unequal treatment in our own land! We are separate and unequal and so nonsecular by very Government law and functioning!!

I was right:- fascist colonialism has not ended for us. We are the most marginalized and disenfranchised lot than that in any other nation on earth. We are the only one LEFT BEHIND AND ISOLATED.

Where is Gandhi/Gandhism in islamists? Because they are islamofascists, there cant be any Gandhism
in them!!! But we are too Gandhian already!

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Seetha Raghavan 's comment on
'The Foil' in the White House Press Room [ Posted by Venki ]

OK, ENOUGH GUYS! Did you know that BBC is getting away from homogenised accent? It is now promoting variations in the interest of sensitivity to cultural differences?

Pt-2: There is no other person to represent our interest of pakki's ethnic cleansing and war crimes, genocides esp-ly in Kashmir - ie. his constant refrain in every question to Bush's Press Secy's brief. I love his focus and patriotism. Even Hindutvadis have allowed passively and tolerantly too many savage crimes, too many lies, too much exploitation and sexploitation of the ancient culture and vulnerable masses of our Sacred/Holy Land from barbaric islamists in and out of Fakistan.

One MUNIR AKRAM is rightly standing up for the rights of one Billion. What we cant and should do, he is doing - i.e. protecting our rights, livelihoods and way of life from war mongers of Fakistan and minority hate-mongers of India

Some more q's for the simpleton mind of anti-Indians that put out too many simplistic or wanton lies perhaps from too intimate association with savage islamists or christian fascists:

Why have not the Hindutvadis protected us from so many savage attacks by the barbaric minority muslims and christians down the ages, ever since colonial invasion and oppression since then? Is it because they have been too passive or tolerant?
PROVIDE COMPELLING AND CLEAR EVIDENCE!

Why have not the Hindutvadis challenged the dishonest, deceptive lies by enemies of India and Indians?
PROVIDE COMPELLING AND CLEAR EVIDENCE!

Why have not the Hindutvadis confronted the anti-Hindu rapists who prey on our women daily in our streets, churches?
PROVIDE COMPELLING AND CLEAR EVIDENCE!

Why did the Hindutvadis allow the settling of 110+ million barbaric islamists in 1947 who are not only the worst type of economic burden but also a criminal burden on our society?
PROVIDE COMPELLING AND CLEAR EVIDENCE!


Why did the Hindutvadis allow erosion of their own rights of free speech and movement, right to worship - in the context of denial of such rights to Dr Togadia, Smt Bharati, and that of lynching of our street processions during Ganesh and Hanuman functions?
PROVIDE COMPELLING AND CLEAR EVIDENCE!

Why did the Hindutvadis allow naxal murders during election ruin the results and why have not had an easy win, though constituting the great majority of the population? Why did the Hindutvadis allow the congress mafia syndicate take over our Holy Land, yet again?
PROVIDE COMPELLING AND CLEAR EVIDENCE!

Why is there not much social disorder in S Arabia ?

Why are there no conversions to christianity there or in Fakistan?
Why are there not many AIDS cases?

Why are there not many NGO's there or in Fakistan?

Why are there not many naxal/maoists/commies?

Why are there not many serial mass murders?

like blasts and murders in Parliament, SATARA, ANANTNAG, MARAD, GODHRA, in train, buses and cinema halls
of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, or Burma but only in Hindustan? It is due to the islamists making your land their playground?!

Why Gandhism and non-violence not preached to or practised by the savage islamists and criminal christians? Should that be an educational requirement in madrasas and church-run schools for their voting rights?

Why have our minority not done anything to stop arms-race from war mongers of Fakistan that is draining our economy for one more decade?
PROVIDE COMPELLING AND CLEAR EVIDENCE, otherwise!

Do the India's minority respect their host culture, our lives and our way of life? PROVIDE COMPELLING AND CLEAR EVIDENCE!

I will wait for your answers knowing you seem to be a gentleman [?!]..



Boycott their business for social justice!!


DO the minority repect India's host culture, our lives and our way of life?
PROVIDE COMPELLING AND CLEAR EVIDENCE!



Given that the gang of dishonest, greedy muslim fascists caused ten deaths for the distant remarks of JERRY FALWELL
in India - not in any of the 50+ islamist nations, proves clearly that the muslim
villains have **excessive** rights while denying even basic right to live to the
Hindus (and other human rights as well - like right of free expression, political dissent without police baton charge), to the broader civil society, since they keep blasting in trains, buses, temples, cinema halls much like in Israel and since they have your voices silenced, your protests abused by police excesses.

Importantly, their unchallenged vicious lies are more powerful than anything you can ever possibly imagine.


Seetha Raghavan 's comment on
Indian Qaeda man Afroze gets seven years’ jail [ Posted by News Reporter ]

This is just a slap in the wrist. 5 yrs and 20k fine, is a joke. Many others have got more severe punishment and fine for much less of a crime.

In ref to article by Mr A. Bolt on 'Importing Hatred', let me say both UK, USA didnt learn from colonial experience of former. Now they are learning how dangerous islamists can be. Giving billions to a rogue naiton like Pakistan that is an axis of evil with Bangladesh, has been a big mistake.

India deserves better and more. Immigrants from India might advance both culture and technology of A'lia. My two cents..========

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300 feared killed in Wai temple stampede
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Wai (Maharashtra), Jan 25: At least 300 persons were killed and over 200 others injured in a stampede today at Mandradevi temple located on a hillock in Satara district, Additional Director General of Police (Maharashtra) V N Deshmukh said.


Most of the victims were women and children, he added.


The stampede took place due to electrical short circuit, causing fear among the devotees who were entering the sanctum sanctorum of the temple to pay obeisance to the goddess during the annual pilgrimage yatra in which lakhs of people take part including from outside the state.


The road from Wai to the temple has been cordoned off and only police and rescue vehicles were allowed in the area to take the injured to nearby hospitals, officials told reporters.


Chief Minister Vilasrao Deshmukh and Deputy Chief Minister R R Patil rushed to the spot from Mumbai on hearing the news.


Deshmukh told reporters on the way that the immediate concern of the state administration was to provide aid to the injured who have been rushed to the nearby hospitals.


Expressing deep shock and sorrow over the incident, Maharashtra Governor S M Krishna said," I convey my heartfelt condolences to the members of the bereaved families and pray for the speedy recovery of the injured." (Agencies)


Published: Tuesday, January 25, 2005

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'LeT terrorist' arrested from city lodge

TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ SUNDAY, AUGUST 07, 2005 12:11:02 AM ]

HYDERABAD: After a gap of more than a year, the Hyderabad police pulled a 'Lashkar-e-Tayyeba (LeT) terrorist' out of their hat on Saturday. The Task Force police said they have arrested a 24-year-old man who was allegedly recruiting young Hyderabadis for the terror group's jihadi training camps in Bangladesh.
He was instigated in this direction by his classmate Shahed alias Bilal, an active member of LeT and Jaish-e-Mohammed who was one of the main conspirators in a plot to kill state BJP chief N Indrasena Reddy. Bilal is now said to be in Saudi Arabia.

Police said Ibrahim went to Bangladesh in December 2004 with the help of one Peku Bihari. In Bangladesh, he met Ghulam Ezdani alias Naveed alias Abdullah, who was involved in a bomb blast at the Saibaba temple in Saroornagar in 2002 and one of the main conspirators in a plot to blow up the Ganesh temple in Secunderabad in 2004.

Ibrahim underwent military training under the leadership of one Abdul Muthee in the Sundarban-Bandarban forest in Bangladesh and became proficient in handling AK-47s, sniper rifles, pistols and grenades.

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Posted by KT.Rao on Jul 23, 2005

Just a few days ago, I listed all the heinous and egregious savagery of the eil islamist devils. Even illiterate can understand our pain and sufferings imposed by the invasive and expansive colonialists of history and now neo-colonialists of today.

Why is assNair so bent on using twisted logic and plain lies? Is he getting paid big bucks for dishonesty, deceit and deception? One more time, I am posting this-
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Seetha-ji, As someone said the same gangs in Anjuman-e-Islam,Tamil Nadu Muslim Munnetra Kazhagam (TMMK)
SIMI, AMU,Ahl-e-Hadees, CONGRESS PARTY, WAQF BOARD, AIMPLB, Jamat e Islami Hind, Tabligh-e-Jamat, Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT), Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM) might be implicated in the following high profile crimes too-
**** beginning in Jinah's serial mass murders worst of which was when british arrested caliph of turkey, a rampage in Kerala saw slaughter of 1000's of Hindus; or is it from the days of the invasion of your Holy Land by the savage muslim barbarians;
**** * in 1948 the killing fields by vigilantte criminals who tried to wipe out RSS right after M.K. Gandhi was sent to heaven;

**** * in 1969, when israeli army entered alaqsa mosque thousands of miles away, Hindus were butchered - for no fault; ;
**** * The muslim savage primitives have "mistook silence for consent" to murder at will. "The vicissitudes of colonial politics" is still dogging the noble and civilized vedic society.

**** * more than 300 SATARA pilgrims were burnt alive at Wei - victims mostly women and children much like Godhra signature pogrom;

**** * in 1969, when israeli army entered alaqsa mosque thousands of miles away, hindus were butchered - for no fault;

**** * when ten Hindus were killed in Sholapur MH under the pretext of protesting an American's [Jerry Falwell] remarks in far away USA;

**** * when the muslims rioted in parts of Mumbai specifically targeting hindu property while protesting against the already banned rushdies satanic verses book;
**** * tens killed at the Gateway of India during twin blasts of Bombay, MARAD, GODHRA, temples, trains and buses for no apparent reason;

**** * "In 1946 or thereabouts the Muslim atrocities perpetrated on Hindus under the Government patronage of Suhrawardy in Noakhali that made your blood boil;"
**** * when the anti-Indians went on rampage causing injury to people and damage to property when USA attacked Iraq;

**** * thousands murdered for a pig running by an unholy mosque; * when the colonialists often stone Hindu street functions;

**** * 32 Hindus were killed in the savage attack of Akshardham temple;

**** * the serial blasts in Coimbatore, which killed over 60 people during Mr L.K. Advani’s electioneering in February 1998, the news report was "Top leaders of Al-Umma and Jihad Committee were arrested for the blasts."

**** * equating the regain of ancient property for an old unused bldg called babri in 1992-93 in December 6, 1992 to lost lives of more than 2000 plotted by imam of Delhi who is still in rat hole as fugitive of the law of the land.

**** * Mumbai serial blasts committed by Dawood and his cronies like Izu Sheikh on "Black Friday" of March 12, 1993 when 257 lives were savagely slaughtered injuring 713 - serial blasts that shattered the city;

**** * attack on American Centre in Kolkata in 2002 by underworld don Aftab Ansari and six others when 5 Indian policemen laid down their lives to save Americans. etc?

Are these **unpunished** killings and damage of property of people justified? Who took law into their own hands?:-

All because of criminalized use of secularism. Rule of law or social order is yet to take root in the Holy Land of the Hindus - now run by "wicked christians and cruel muslims." The sad result:- colonialism has not yet ended - definitely the religious type.
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Moplah SAVAGERY and Jerry Falwell SAVAGERY had absolutely nothing to do with Hindu Hindutvadis who have been brutally prevented from defending their own loved ones. Criminality continues, courtesy of assNair and his ilk.

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Posted by AmericanForIndia on Jul 23, 2005

This man is again full of lies, deceit, denial and deception by mere association with the savage and barbaric islamists who the Hindutvadis have been trusting, tolerating, giving, giving in, FAR TOO LONG - SEVERAL CENTURIES!..!

"Christian Europe/ America has in the recent centuries become leaders in the fields of innovation and discovery -- while Asia has declined during the same period" It is not Christian Europe/ America that has become leaders in the fields of innovation and discovery but NON-CHRISTIAN JAPAN AND CHINA!

If you go by dates, it is not Christian Europe/ America that were leaders in the fields of innovation and discovery but non-Christian ones AFTER THE RENNAISSANCE when church was asked to give up their property and tights to meddle.
1) FRENCH REVOLUTION SHUT ALL CHURCHES AND DISPOSSESSED THEM OF VALUABLE PROPERTIES;
2) SPANISH CIVIL WAR ACHIEVED THE SAME THING;
3) CHURCH OF ENGLAND WAS FORMED, BREAKING AWAY FROM STONE AGE CATHOLICISM;
4) PROTESTANISM BY LUTHER WAS IN A DIRECT FIGHT WITH STONE AGE CATHOLICISM;
5) THE CURRENT FIGHTS OVER
A. STEM CELL RESEARCH,
B. ABORTION RIGHTS,
C. GAY RIGHTS,
D. RIGHTS OF FREEDOM OF MINORS FROM RAPES BY PRIESTS;
E. RIGHTS OF WOMEN FROM GETTING CONTRACEPTION PILLS DISPENSED FROM PHARMACISTS; [it is being denied by some catholic pharmacists out of 'conscience']; etc. ALL REGRESSIVE DENIAL OF RIGHTS not even dissent.

It is the Hindutvadis who are denied the right of protest/dissent, when they are arrested for peaceful rally by the current authoritarian congress dictators. It was Doctor Togadia, esq who was denied even entry into Kerala and Assam during the elections with **no** freedom of expression or movement.

"NAXAL NAIR'S" LIES ARE GOING TOO FAR. HE CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH IT. IS HE POSSIBLY INVOLVED IN NAXAL MURDERS TOO? MAYBE, FOR ALL WE KNOW. Denying heinous crimes by his islamist friends shows, he is as **dangerous** as those serial mass murderers themselves.

Serial mass murderers in the Indian minority DONT even deserve a GREEN CARD to live in India, let alone citizenship and voting rights. They are unfit and misfits for living with the civilized Indians - i.e. Hindutvadis. Power to the Hindutvadis in Hindustan!



Posted by KT.Rao on Jul 17, 2005


Seetha-ji, As you say the same gangs in Anjuman-e-Islam,Tamil Nadu Muslim Munnetra Kazhagam (TMMK)
SIMI, AMU, CONGRESS PARTY, WAQF BOARD, AIMPLB, Jamat e Islami Hind, Tabligh-e-Jamat, Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT), Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM)might be implicated in the following high profile crimes too-
**** beginning in Jinah's serial mass murders worst of which was when british arrested caliph of turkey, a rampage in Kerala saw slaughter of 1000's of Hindus; or is it from the days of the invasion of your Holy Land by the savage muslim barbarians;
**** * in 1948 the killing fields by vigilantte criminals who tried to wipe out RSS right after M.K. Gandhi was sent to heaven;

**** * in 1969, when israeli army entered alaqsa mosque thousands of miles away, Hindus were butchered - for no fault; ;
**** * The muslim savage primitives have "mistook silence for consent" to murder at will. "The vicissitudes of colonial politics" is still dogging the noble and civilized vedic society.

**** * more than 300 SATARA pilgrims were burnt alive at Wei - victims mostly women and children much like Godhra signature pogrom;

**** * in 1969, when israeli army entered alaqsa mosque thousands of miles away, hindus were butchered - for no fault;

**** * when ten Hindus were killed in Sholapur MH under the pretext of protesting an American's [Jerry Falwell] remarks in far away USA;

**** * when the muslims rioted in parts of Mumbai specifically targeting hindu property while protesting against the already banned rushdies satanic verses book;
**** * tens killed at the Gateway of India during twin blasts of Bombay, MARAD, GODHRA, temples, trains and buses for no apparent reason;

**** * "In 1946 or thereabouts the Muslim atrocities perpetrated on Hindus under the Government patronage of Suhrawardy in Noakhali that made your blood boil;"
**** * when the anti-Indians went on rampage causing injury to people and damage to property when USA attacked Iraq;

**** * thousands murdered for a pig running by an unholy mosque; * when the colonialists often stone Hindu street functions;

**** * 32 Hindus were killed in the savage attack of Akshardham temple;

**** * the serial blasts in Coimbatore, which killed over 60 people during Mr L.K. Advani’s electioneering in February 1998, the news report was "Top leaders of Al-Umma and Jihad Committee were arrested for the blasts."

**** * equating the regain of ancient property for an old unused bldg called babri
in 1992-93 in December 6, 1992 to lost lives of more than 2000 plotted by imam of Delhi who is still in rat hole as fugitive of the law of the land.

**** * Mumbai serial blasts committed by Dawood and his cronies like Izu Sheikh on "Black Friday" of March 12, 1993 when 257 lives were savagely slaughtered injuring 713 - serial blasts that shattered the city;

**** * attack on American Centre in Kolkata in 2002 by underworld don Aftab Ansari and six others when 5 Indian policemen laid down their lives to save Americans. etc?


**** * twin blast case of August 25, 2003, in which 50 persons were killed and over 100 injured.



Are these **unpunished** killings and damage of property of people justified? Who took law into their own hands?:-

All because of criminalized use of secularism. Rule of law or social order is yet to take root in the Holy Land of the Hindus - now run by "wicked christians and cruel muslims." The sad result:- colonialism has not yet ended - definitely the religious type.

No other nation has such a poor standard of politics because of mosque and church interference in its elections. Where is secularism or democracy in India? Does the majority rule India? All the *fascists* are among the Indian minority - islamist vulgar brutes and swindling christians!
THE LIST ABOVE DOSE NOT INCLUDE VERY MANY RIOTS AND UNREPORTED SAVAGERY. AND MOST HAVE GONE UNPUNISHED TOO.

Look at the long list of xian brutal sexual attacks-
# Ocean City Catholic priest jailed for drunkenness - Chicago Tribune

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Rev. Victor Stewart, who died in 1994 at age 54, abused at least 22 boys during the 1980s, some as young as 7, according to an attorney for the accusers. [ posted by : PTAM]
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# Catholic priest prey on African American boys - Chicago Tribune

Rev. Victor Stewart, who died in 1994 at age 54, abused at least 22 boys during the 1980s, some as young as 7, according to an attorney for the accusers. [ posted by : PTAM]
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# Questions On How Convicted Catholic Priest Got Second.. - The Boston Globe

http://www.wcpo.com/news/2005/local/07/13/priest_indicted.html 7/13/2005 11:03:56 PM Some members of the Roman Catholic church are asking why a Cincinnati priest was allowed to return to the ministry just months after he was convicted of public indecency. [ posted by : PTAM]
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# Norton priest pleads guilty to indecent assault - The Boston Globe

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# Priest indicted for child rape, battery - Washington Times

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# Woman says former priest sexually abused her - The Boston Globe

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# Norton priest pleads guilty to indecent assault - The Boston Globe

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/news/archive/local_21822319.shtml Posted July 16, 2005 Confession barred in ex-priest’s trial A letter in which a former Catholic priest confessed to molesting more than 14 boys between 1969 and 1988 cannot be shown to jurors hearing allegations that the man.


# Church urged to find other abuse victims Priest who has died named in 22 cases By Margaret Ramirez Tribune religion reporter
Published July 14, 2005

African-American men who were sexually abused as children by a Roman Catholic priest demanded Wednesday that church officials take steps to find other victims who may be suffering in silence.

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OUR SANSKRITI IS BETTER THAN THAT OF BOTH EVIL MUSLIME DEVILS AND XIAN THUGS ANY DAY BY ANY STANDARD!!



Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Jul 17, 2005

Survivors of rapes become silent being afraid of more barbarism the muslim barbaric thugs that target and assault **our** Hindu women. If they do not report them for obvious reasons, it is the society's fault.

But women and children burnt alive at Wei - victims mostly women and children much like Godhra signature pogrom, cannot obviously report how they faced the barbaric death and from whom.

The savage friends of naxal Nair ensured that. He still says we are not in danger. If his sister or wife or mother dies or becomes paraplexic, he will realize the full impact of the millennium long savagery on Hindutva folks.

Hope that does not happen and he realizes sooner.

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Posted by Seetha Raghavan on Jul 17, 2005

Have you not lost your basic decency in accusing a whole SANSKRITI w/o any data or basis for your phychotic lies? Do you live in a pigsty? Because, you stink and your hogwash is in bad odour.

I know personally out of failed attacks on me and from my friends, there are mostly muslim barbaric thugs that assault one Hindu women who do not report them for obvious reasons.

Most of the crimes in Hindustan are associated with savage jihadi pigsty's like these:
Anjuman-e-Islam,Tamil Nadu Muslim Munnetra Kazhagam (TMMK), SIMI, AMU, CONGRESS PARTY, WAQF BOARD, AIMPLB,
Jamat e Islami Hind, Tabligh-e-Jamat, Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT), Jaish-e-Mohammad (JeM)

=========Rape, Rob and Riot are the 3R tactics of savage muslim barbarians for the last nine centuries===========
Woman arrested for forged passport
Coimbatore, July 16: A woman who arrived from Sharjah by flight to the city has been arrested, on charges of travelling on forged passport and documents.
Rameja Begum, a resident of Karumbukadai in the city, had arrived from Sharjah a couple of days ago and the officials on suspicion, detained her for interrogation, police said today.

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Cops seek warrant against Shahabuddin
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Siwan, July 16: Controversial RJD MP Mohammed Shahabuddin is once again in deep trouble with police moving a local Court here seeking issue of non-bailable warrants of arrest against him and others in three separate criminal cases, including one charging him with conspiring against the nation and collecting arms with an intention to endanger national unity.
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Live grenade recovered in Ayodhya
Ayodhya, July 16: Ten days after the terror attack on the makeshift temple here, a live hand grenade was recovered Friday from behind the 'Sita rasoi' in the temple complex, police said.
Security personnel spotted a shining object lying on the grass fields behind Sita rasoi (where Sita probably cooked food) and on close examination, it was found to be a grenade, police said.
======Muslimness [not Hinduness] is still being used in the service of SAVAGE CRIMES=========
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Akshardham attack plotted in Riyadh'
Ahmedabad, July 16: A key witness in the Akshardham Temple terrorist attack case has revealed that several religious leaders and heads of terrorist groups from Hyderabad and Ahmedabad met in Riyadh in Saudi Arabia in 2002 to conspire and avenge the killing of Muslims during the post-Godhra communal riots in Gujarat.
The revelation was made by a key witness whose name cannot be revealed due to a gag order issued by the special POTA court, prosecution sources said last night.
Trial in the sensational attack case, in which 31 persons, including four security persons, were killed and over 80 injured, began Thursday in-camera inside the Sabarmati Central Jail.
======Muslimness [not Hinduness] is still being used in the service of SAVAGE CRIMES=========
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LeT cadre arrested for Ayodhya attack
Ayodhya/Jammu, July 15: In a major breakthrough in the terror strike at the makeshift temple in Ayodhya, police busted a Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) module behind the attack and arrested five of its cadres from Mendhar in Jammu and Kashmir.
Police have arrested five persons for providing logistical support to the LeT militants who carried out the attack on July 5 and seized two Tata Sumos used for transporting them and the weapons from Poonch to Uttar Pradesh, Mendhar, Sub Divisional Police Officer, Yogal Manhas said in Jammu today.
Giving details about the cracking of the case, Uttar Pradesh Director General of Police Yashpal Singh said one of them was identified as Younus and the second one as Arshad alias Asif.
While Younus stayed in Kishangarh locality in South-West Delhi, Arshad was residing in Deoli village on the outskirts of South Delhi. The DGP said they had been identified by their respective landlords. (Agencies)
======Muslimness [not Hinduness] is still being used in the service of SAVAGE CRIMES=========
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HC reserves order in Salman case
Mumbai, July 13: The Bombay High Court today reserved its order till July 28 on a petition filed by Bollywood actor Salman Khan seeking to quash a lower court's order which had rejected his plea for an 'in camera' trial in a hit-and-run case.
Salman is facing the charge of killing one person and injuring four by ramming his vehicle into a shop.
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A 19-year-old Indian girl was allegedly tortured for 27 hours by her Malaysian employer who accused her of stealing $10,526 in northern Penang state.
Sonia Sharma, a part-time worker at a mobile phone shop, said she was stripped, kicked, punched and beaten with a piece of wood by the 37-year-old employer.
He also cut her forehead, face and arms, and burnt her with a cigarette butt, the New Straits Times reported. Police later arrested the man.
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New Delhi, September 17 Bangladeshi criminals held
New Delhi: The Northeast district police has brought three Bangladeshi criminals
on transitory remand to the Capital from district 24-Parganas in West Bengal.

The alleged criminals were declared proclaimed offenders by the court and wanted in
several cases of murder and Arms Act. They were identified as Mohammad Khokan, Mohammad
Khlil Batiyat and Mohammad Farooq. The suspects were arrested on the charge of dacoity
in West Bengal. During interrogation, they admitted to their involvement in crime cases in Delhi.
======Muslimness [not Hinduness] is still being used in the service of SAVAGE CRIMES=========
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The Hindustan Times New Delhi, 1 May 1997
Govt seeks revision of order on Naib Imam
NEW DELHI, April 30 - The Delhi Government filed a
petition in the Delhi High Court seeking revision of a court
order refusing permission to the Government to drop sedition
charges against Naib Iman of Jama Masjid Syed Ahmed Bukhari
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At least 13 women fell victim to honour killing while seven men also lost their lives to this ‘tradition’ in Lahore in the first five months of 2005. A man gunned down his sister because she wanted to marry a man of her choice.
# 13 women and 7 men fall victim to ‘honour’ in 5 months - Daily Times
By Aayan Ali
LAHORE: At least 13 women fell victim to honour killing while seven men also lost their lives to this ‘tradition’ in the city in the first five months of 2005, Daily Times learnt on Friday.
On January 14, a man strangled his wife to death for allegedly having an affair with a neighbour in the Sanda police precincts. Accused Ziaullah told the police that his wife Shahida was involved with Muhammad Arshad.
A man and a woman were killed and four others injured in the name of honour in Misri Shah police limits on January 23. Mehboob Khan was involved with Ayesha, the niece of Riaz. Riaz shot his niece dead and later attacked Mehboob and his family at their house. Five people of Mehboob’s family were injured. Later Yaqoob Khan, Mehboob’s father, died at Mayo Hospital.
A man gunned down his sister over a marriage dispute in Gulshan Ravi police limits on February 10. Rabia Muzaffar wanted to marry a man of her choice, which annoyed her brother Kashif, who later killed her with the help of his accomplices.
Shaukat Ali, a resident of Factory Area, was assassinated for allegedly having an affair with Shabnam on February 12. Nazir Hussain and Sabir Hussain, Shabnam’s brothers, and her father Allah Dita shot Shaukat dead at Gulistan Colony.
A mother of four was killed by her brother in the name of honour in Sanda police precincts on February 23. Shahnaz, 32, married Zafar Ali after getting a divorce from her first husband. Muhammad Azam, Shahnaz’s brother, shot her dead for he considered her to have ‘loose morals’.
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I see no end to the list. Do you Ah-Lass? I could support my claim but you, from the pigsty, could not. You dont even deserve our spit.


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Intermarriage: As in Trinidad and Tobago, intermarriage between Hindu and Muslim Indians is very common in Guyana, constituting perhaps eight percent of all weddings. Black/Indian marriages are rare. Hindu activist Bharat Kissoon estimates that in six out of every ten Guyanese Hindu/Muslim marriages, the wedding follows the Islamic line. The result of the unions are combined names such as Kishore Mohammed (a Hindu), Salisha Singh (a Muslim) and Anil Khan- Such names are also common in Trinidad. Suriname is much different, and while I could not find any official statistics, intermarriage was obviously rare.

As is unfortunately the case among too many Hindus, priest-bashing is common in both Suriname and Guyana. Many I met said the priests were “not up with the times,” “too concerned with ritual” and other complaints similar to what is heard in Trinidad. There are some legitimate concerns because of the emigration of some of the best pundits to other countries. This has broken up the traditional father-to-son training system, and now some become pundits without being properly trained.

Suicide in Guyana: Many people I talked to in Guyana expressed concern about the high rate of suicide among the Hindu community and the fact that virtually no one is doing anything to address the problem from a Hindu angle.

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13 women and 7 men fall victim to ‘honour’ in 5 months in Lahore
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Munir.Akram 's comment on
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This is outright robbing of Indians to pay the talebans!


At least 13 women fell victim to honour killing while seven men also lost their lives to this ‘tradition’ in Lahore in the first five months of 2005. A man gunned down his sister because she wanted to marry a man of her choice.
# 13 women and 7 men fall victim to ‘honour’ in 5 months - Daily Times

By Aayan Ali

LAHORE: At least 13 women fell victim to honour killing while seven men also lost their lives to this ‘tradition’ in the city in the first five months of 2005, Daily Times learnt on Friday.

On January 14, a man strangled his wife to death for allegedly having an affair with a neighbour in the Sanda police precincts. Accused Ziaullah told the police that his wife Shahida was involved with Muhammad Arshad.

A man and a woman were killed and four others injured in the name of honour in Misri Shah police limits on January 23. Mehboob Khan was involved with Ayesha, the niece of Riaz. Riaz shot his niece dead and later attacked Mehboob and his family at their house. Five people of Mehboob’s family were injured. Later Yaqoob Khan, Mehboob’s father, died at Mayo Hospital.

A man gunned down his sister over a marriage dispute in Gulshan Ravi police limits on February 10. Rabia Muzaffar wanted to marry a man of her choice, which annoyed her brother Kashif, who later killed her with the help of his accomplices.

Shaukat Ali, a resident of Factory Area, was assassinated for allegedly having an affair with Shabnam on February 12. Nazir Hussain and Sabir Hussain, Shabnam’s brothers, and her father Allah Dita shot Shaukat dead at Gulistan Colony.

A mother of four was killed by her brother in the name of honour in Sanda police precincts on February 23. Shahnaz, 32, married Zafar Ali after getting a divorce from her first husband. Muhammad Azam, Shahnaz’s brother, shot her dead for he considered her to have ‘loose morals’.

A man shot his sister dead in the Factory Area on March 2. Munir shot Naseera, 28, a resident of Chungi Amar Sadhu, for having ‘loose morals’.

Three men shot a girl dead after she refused to marry one of them in Shahdara Town police limits on March 5. Shahbaz, Adnan and Mola shot dead Shumaila, a resident of Siraj Park, after she refused to marry Adnan.

A man was killed for allegedly having an affair with a woman in the Wahdat Colony police jurisdiction on March 7. Mushtaq, 21, was said to be involved with Parveen. As a result, Parveen’s brother Javed shot him dead.

A man shot his sister dead for allegedly having an affair with a man in the Manga Mandi police jurisdiction on March 8.

Haroon, a resident of Mustafabad, Shahdara Town, shot dead his 19-year-old daughter Sumaira on March 14 over the suspicions that she was involved with a man.

A man killed his sister in Garden Town police limits on March 9. Hina Basharat, 16, a resident of Islampura, worked at a beauty parlour.

A man shot dead his brother-in-law in the Gujjar Pura police jurisdiction on April 13. Tariq Mehmood married Misbah, a resident of Garden Town, about six months ago against the will of her parents. He had been receiving life threats from his in-laws. Shakeel, Shahid and Saghir shot Tariq dead at his house in Jani Pura.

A man shot dead a cousin of his wife after a domestic row in Sherakot on March 15. Yaqoob Masih had a dispute with his wife. Tariq tried to intervene at which Yaqoob shot him dead.

On the same day, a man killed his niece for eloping with a man in the Race Course police jurisdiction. Uzama Bashir, a resident of Khokhar Town, eloped with a man and returned home after two months. Her uncle Maqsood Masih strangled her to death at her house near Mayo Gardens Club.

A married woman and the man she was having an affair with were murdered in the Baghbanpura police jurisdiction on April 28. Sakina, mother of four, had an affair with Imran. She eloped with him on April 17. Her brother Riaz killed her and Imran after she returned home. A man killed his wife in the Burki police jurisdiction on April 30. Shaukat suspected that his wife Fehmida was having an affair with a neighbour.

Sher killed his wife Fauzia on the suspicion that she was having an affair with a neighbour in Civil Lines police limits on May 7. She had two children.

A newly wed couple was shot dead in the Shalimar Town police jurisdiction on May 18. Shahid Amin, 26, married Nagma, 22, against the will of their parents about 15 days ago. Shafiq shoot his sister Naghma and her husband at their house in Bogiwal. They died on their way to hospital.
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# Muslims should learn to respect other religions - Khaleej Times Online

Can we know if these anti-US protesters and clerics felt any anguish when the Taleban were blowing up the Buddha statues in Afghanistan or when ethnic cleansing of Hindus was going on in Kashmir and Bangladesh. It is very simple — one has to respect the feelings of others and they will automatically

Respect all religions

21 May 2005

THE alleged desecration of Koran in a US jail is unfortunate and reprehensible, as religious books of all religions deserve respect. But can we know if these anti-US protesters and clerics felt any anguish when the Taleban were blowing up the Buddha statues in Afghanistan or when ethnic cleansing of Hindus was going on in Kashmir and Bangladesh. It is very simple ? one has to respect the feelings of others and they will automatically respect yours. This message needs to be communicated to all religious scholars who have made a career out of running down the rituals and practices of other religions.

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Minorityism, Kerala's time bomb

VA Gangadharan

Kerala is fast emerging as a hotbed of "communal feudalism". It is manifested in the broad spectrum of Malayalee life and culture. In her democratic road to communal power, the patronage regimes of Kerala have virtually destroyed every socio-political structure so assiduously built by men of great conviction during the social reform movement of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

Kerala is now caught in the vortex of appeasement politics. Governance has become a dirty game of apportionment by feudal caucuses controlled by influential minority leaders - a paradox of pluralistic democracy. This is perhaps the only state in India where the concept "minorities" is irrelevant because the ratio of Hindus (the "majority") to non-Hindus is almost 50-50. Yet it is witness to the worst form of communal feudalism. The Hindus of Kerala are victims of all-out discrimination by the owners of fiefdoms earned through minority appeasement by leaders of both the LDF and UDF.

Under colonialism, they were deprived of their social capital through a process of systematic dethronement. Political isolation went hand-in-hand with economic deprivation thanks to well-orchestrated policies. Now, brainwashed by an educational system which promotes self-flagellation for Hindus, they are reduced to pleading for the unity of the majority against the minority.

But strange are the ways of democracies. The majority does not matter! Kerala's political parties are in thick competition to appease the minority vote-banks. That is considered legitimate under "secularism". The Kerala Congress (KC) was created under the indirect auspices of the Church to promote Christian interests by retaining power in core sectors - revenue,education and rural development - irrespective of the formation in power. The KC's ministers pampered their community and when the Indian Union Muslim League (IUML)'s turn came, they outdid the feat of the trendsetters. The response of the majority has not been matched in deeds - only words. Ideological combat is all that is offered.

Politics is the art of possibilities. For the minorities, support or opposition to the UDF or LDF is based on the extent of the commitments each group is able to extract in order to ensure that the majority is kept divided. Examples are available in plenty. An exploration of these issues will bring out the nature of the struggle discreetly fought by the minority against the majority. Leaders who try to rise above this unseemly game are shown the door. The fates met by AK Antony and VS Achuthananthan highlight this fact.

Antony was removed from the post of CM because he dared to tell the world about the relative prosperity of the minorities over the majority community. He wanted to befriend the estranged Nair-Ezhava leadership which supported him to secure the best ever UDF victory in its history. But the minorities were in no mood for reconciliation and he was shown the door.

The Justice KK Narendran Commission report is yet another classic case of minority appeasement. The history of reservation policies, right from the age of the Maharajahs, was one based on appeasement. The Travancore kings did it by implementing Noke's report (1936) and disregarding the Legislator Committee Report. When the Constitution of India confined reservation to the SCs and STs, successive governments in Kerala opened new windows of appeasement by extending 40 per cent reservation to "backward classes". In the end, the minorities turned out to be the largest holders of resources, power and privileges. The Commission, much to the discomfiture of its sponsor, brought out a surprising story of over-representation of OBCs and minorities. The report has had a profound impact on Kerala society. The Ezhavas, who led the struggle in the company of Muslims and Christians, now withdrew and initiated a movement for the majority. This has been one of the few salutary effects of the Narendran Commission. It ended the era of enmity between the Nairs and the Ezhavas.

The Muslim League, which converted communal feudalism into an ideology, is now consolidating its fiefdom ahead of the panchayat elections by raising the demand for the implementation of the Narendran report. In the process, the UDF's edifice will be damaged permanently. This may be divine justice because the UDF was the original creator of communal fiefdoms. Communalism was its mantra and feudalism its practice.

They allowed parades in Marad to appease Muslim fundamentalists and quelled the Muthanga and Mathikkettan agitations to pacify Christian settlers. They had no qualms in selectively pumping public resources to realise private political objectives. These monies were used to monopolise profit-making institutions in utter disregard to sensible public opinion. They wrested government properties worth crores in prime locations of Kerala's towns to harvest the "dreams" of the state's GenNext.

They sympathised with Kerala' first known Islamic terrorist,Abdul Nasser Madani, the prime accused in the 1998 Coimbatore blast case, and moved covertly to get him bail. An Assembly dominated by the UDF can be counted upon to enact any law for abetting minority aggrandisement.

The LDF, led by the Marxists, is no better. The CPI(M )'s choice of Malappuram as the venue of its 2005 state conference was deliberate. It was an ill-concealed move to reach out to Muslims and convince them of the closeness of Marx and madrassa. The party condemns and humiliates all those who speak out against appeasement. Even a senior comrade like V Achutanandan, the leader of the CPI(M) in the Assembly, was subject to such treatment.

The CPI(M) has no qualms about courting alliances with parties like the IUML. Convenient theories are advanced to justify this policy. In the process, the LDF is alienating the majority by clandestinely aligning and co-habiting with known communal feudal lords. Historically, the LDF has never been seen without a communal group under its fold - whether Muslim or Christian.

Instances of double standards in appeasing communal feudalists are too many to be listed. A classic case is the the Plus-Two schools' scandal of the mid-1990s when the LDF, which was then in power, merrily allowed sectarian groups to take over government institutions. Thus, an excellent opportunity for course correction was frittered away. In the ongoing self-financing college issue, what concerns the Communists more is protecting the nterests of the (minority-dominated) managements of 85 per cent of the colleges profiting from the system rather than pursue justice for Rajani, the student of one such college in Adoor, Pathanamthitta district, who was forced to commit suicide last year after she was denied a loan. They got their cadres free in the Nadapuram case by succumbing to the ultra Muslim communal outfit, the National Development Front.

There is not so much to be said about the so-called "Hindu Right". For obvious reasons, political formations espousing Hindu unity are yet to open their account in Kerala politics. But if indications are anything to go by, they will outdo the LDF and UDF in vote-bank politics if ever they come to power.

However, the analysis will be incomplete if we ignore how majority community is responding to communal feudalism. Yes, there is Hindu consolidation: The NSS and the SNDP Yogam are coming closer. There is reason to believe that the unity will sustain because, unlike past experiments which were top-down, this time the impetus is coming from the grassroots. This is certainly giving Kerala politics new undercurrents. Vellappaly and Panikker are speaking in favour of broad Hindu unity - this is something unheard of in Kerala.

But, no, this enthusiasm will be swept away once the communal feudals, promoted by the existing poles of Kerala politics, invent a new ideology and barge into the centrestage with a profound appeasement policy. Their success is assured because divisive politics has deep political, socio-demographic and economics foundations.

The pessimism is compounded by experience from near history. The resolve to contain the ogre of appeasement is sure to be diluted once the loaves and fishes of office are won. Ending minority appeasement soon gets reduced to a slogan.
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Online edition of India's National Newspaper
Saturday, May 21, 2005

`Maudany arranged for Pak training'

Staff Reporter

VACB Dy.SP's deposition before panel

KOZHIKODE: The People's Democratic Party (PDP) founder-chairman, Abdul Nasir Maudany, a key accused in the Coimbatore serial blasts case, had arranged facilities to provide training to another accused, a native of Marad, in Pakistan, the Vigilance and Anti-Corruption Bureau (VACB) Dy.S.P., C.M. Pradeep Kumar, told the Marad Judicial Commission here on Friday.

In his deposition before the Commission, Thomas P. Joseph, the former Circle Inspector of Police, who arrested Maudany and two others (A.T. Mohammed Ashraf and M. Subair) from Kozhikode in 1998, said that one of them was sent to Pakistan via Bangkok.

On the suggestion of Maudany, he was asked to contact another individual in Bangkok. However, he had to return since he was not allowed to proceed to Pakistan. When Maudany was interrogated he denied the charges, Mr. Pradeep Kumar said.

On the request of the then Kozhikode City Police Commissioner, Neera Rawat, Mr. Pradeep Kumar had interrogated Maudany, Ooma Babu, another accused, and Subair, an activist of the National Development Front (NDF), hailing from Marad.

The Beypore SI had also seized documents including a diary, air ticket from Muscat to Karachi, boarding pass and bag and baggage coupons, he said. Mr. Pradeep Kumar, who had a 10-year stint with the CBI in Mumbai and Kochi, had assisted the Mumbai blasts case investigations in 1992. Smuggling and drug dealings were behind the riots in the aftermath of the blasts. Then officers had stumbled upon evidences that Keralities had gone for training in Pakistan.

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Miriam the Jew 's comment on
Pakistani religious clerics declare suicide attacks un-Islamic [ Posted by Suresh Vyas ]

Bigoted fundamentalist islamists backed by saudis and pakki-ISI have now more reason to be more savagely barbaric and unleash more sadistic savage violence violating the basic Human Rights of Indians with their genocidal planned pogroms for one more day, week, year, decade....

Is this long savagery not qualifying as WAR CRIMES and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY

May 19, 2005
# # 7 Posted by : proud hindu

The guy obviously doesn't remember Xtians rioting in B'bay when The Last Temptation of Christ was released. India had the distinct honor of being the first country in the world to ban the movie, just like it did when it banned the Satanic Verses

Secularism to anyone must mean "separation of church/religion and state/politics"

but given
1. the gross interference of mosques and churches in your (political) elections and
2. number politics involving unlimited births draining your economy;
3. preaching (to brainwash the tender minds) instead of teaching in your school systems
you have anything but secularism!

You Hindus have been too nice too long to the muderous muslim villains and

Secularism

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Absolutely no use wasting your time and typing efforts on these bigoted savages! These savages
have no grasp of the inhumanity of evangelism on top of the muslim serial mass murders imposed on the civil society of India, leave alone
Sangh civil rights activists!

Anti-Indians cyber jihadis here are savagely adamant, savagely aggressive and savagely arrogant. There lies the false sense of their 'superiority'
given that all catholic and islamist countries have a proven poor record of ***scientific achievement***. It is over-compensation to overcome their
savagely low self-image and self-loathing self-pity. You never can truly witness a Proud Christian or Proud Muslim ever living on stolen fame and plundered wealth!!!

If they snatch your freedom with their freedom to kill or convert, they are denying your right to live or right to your way of life and your freedom of existence or worship. Anytime, their physical/religious assault on you obviously impinges on your freedom,
it is immoral and unethicical if not illegal. If they use foul methods like fake healing and phony magic shows, their conversion is clearly illegal too.

Typical savagery of muslims and thuggery of christians have been listed very often. You have nothing but flowers - lotus flowers - you are a beacon of liberty.


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Reprinted from The Boston Globe

http://www.ebeneezer.net/main/special/christian/xtian.html
Evil Christians

By Elizabeth Neuffer Globe Staff, 12/12/96
Reprinted from The Boston Globe
So when the Hutu-led militia began killing Rwanda's Tutsi minority in 1994, thousands fled here, expecting refuge.

bad nun
Sister Bernadette Mukarusine is accused of aiding the Hutu and failing to shelter Tutsi refugees when fighting began in 1994. (GLOBE PHOTO / THOMAS JAMES HURST)
Instead, they met their death. A local priest, Rev. Athanase Serumba, is accused by survivors of having urged on Hutu soldiers attacking the church, and of then ordering the church bulldozed to the ground with bodies and some wounded inside.
dead people in church
Skulls remain as a memorial in a Rwandan church. Nyange, Rwanda - There was a Catholic church here once.
Perched above a cluster of houses high in the terraced Rwandan hills, the red-brick Nyange parish church and its community of priests for years had been where the faithful turned in times of need.

So when the Hutu-led militia began killing Rwanda's Tutsi minority in 1994, thousands fled here, expecting refuge.

bad nun
Sister Bernadette Mukarusine is accused of aiding the Hutu and failing to shelter Tutsi refugees when fighting began in 1994. (GLOBE PHOTO / THOMAS JAMES HURST)
Instead, they met their death. A local priest, Rev. Athanase Serumba, is accused by survivors of having urged on Hutu soldiers attacking the church, and of then ordering the church bulldozed to the ground with bodies and some wounded inside.

Today, all that remains of the Nyange church are piles of weed-strewn rubble, with four wooden crosses marking mass graves. And this community's once stalwart faith in Catholicism also lies in ruins.
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Here is the old monster of the Inquisition and the Jesuit massacres of Peru and Colombia BACK, and they are now in the heart of Africa. It is beyond thinking that these servants of the Vatican could do such mindless acts. You readers who are so ignorant as to think that the old Whore of Rome has changed her ways, read and meditate please. Once a Whore, always a Whore, whether in collusion with Franco, "Dux" Mussolini, Hitler, or the Hutu terrorists. These are the same godfathers who managed the death of Abraham Lincoln from Montreal, Canada and in perfidy with the British. Somehow, it's the same old rodeo all over again.

http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/rc_hutu.htm


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The Muslim businessmen in Panwad are affluent, and many were engaged in moneylending at interest rates ranging between 60 to 120%.
http://www.india-seminar.com/2002/513/513%20ganesh%20devy.htm


Whether it was because of hatred for the moneylenders, or because of rumours about the magical impediments against the ability of the police, or whatever, the congregation of tribals at Panwad was alarmingly large. Newspapers report that their numbers were upto 5000. But considering that every village sent about 50 to 100, the number who actually participated in the looting was a little less than 200 at any given time.
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All Comments on When Religions Claim Superiority
Posted by Munir.Akram on May 7, 2005


Conversion/evangelism means imposition of your 'superior' faith on me by sales and marketing tactics. It doesn't end there.

It next takes the form of several unending demands:=
A. job reservation throwing meritocracy to the winds;
B. robbing of more and more land for burial unlike Hindus who cremate/burn;
C. population explosion and number politics;
D. libellous scandalising of India outside by denigrating India's image;
E. *worst* of all, continuing serial mass savage murders, physical and verbal abuse and rapes;
F. mafia type trafficking in women, guns, drugs, counterfeit, children, ..etc.
G. abduction, extortion, intimidation, ..etc.

even disregarding denial of political rights for the majority population to govern themselves. This has gone on for several centuries.. and it is now boomeranging on the uncivilized Indian minority comprised of jihadi savages and christian thugs. Not only democracy and secularism is at peril but also rule of law and economic stability of the nation.

Foreign disruptive and destructive elements might well be at play with active support of insiders as some of the media have begun exposing. Only solution might possibly be total **boycott** that many here have been advocating.


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Everyone knows that theology of Judaism preaches, "an eye for en eye" and Hinduism probably preaches, Just War (Dharma Yudh), Christianity teaches love and turning the other cheek and so on. Strangely, I find the Hindus always turn the other cheek, with little or no backlash for millions of savage serial murders by the villainous muslims. (There has been only one big backlash post Godhra that was perhaps again ignited by the same villains who attacked the Hindus returning from the cremation grounds after last rites for their victims of traincar carnage). Thus, one might conclude that the "noble and gracious" Hindus behave more like the Christians, almost always turning the other cheek.

Sharon of Israel always justifies excessive military force by saying his people have the right of self-defense. I must add that Bush's massive use of overwhelming military force, namely, artillery and air-strikes, in Falujah is in sharp contrast to India where most of the muslim criminals go scot free while the victims get blame, hate and lies or even get prosecuted.

Such is the truth as revealed by Sankar,
"observe how when any mullah or padre is accused, the whole community and their companions with Hindu names express solidarity with them however grave the charges. Teesta Salvad is one example and so were that girl and her co-terrorists killed in ahmedabad(why isn't modi changing the name of the city).
In Kerala a Muslim League leader is accussed of raping children and the muslim community and Congress are behind him. They even arrested the girl who was raped with attempted suicide."

If they know they are hurting their own kith and kin, if they know that a Hindu lady cannot walk alone at any time of the day in New Delhi as Hindu gangs would pounce on her to rape her,
they dare not indulge the self-indulgent greedy, dishonest and fascist criminals that your minority represent.

Read about this gross Human Rights violation of a top-scientist:

"Dr. Nambinarayanan’s legs were swollen with multiple hemorrhage rashes. He had alleged the involvement of the IGP (Crimes) of Kerala, Sibi Mathew, Joint Directors Mathew John and R.B. Srikumar of IB, blaming them for "illegal detention and gross violation of human rights." Finally NHRC yielded.


Read about this wonderful "interfaith dialog" in Fakistan:
"Pakistan has a legal loophole which enables muslims to kidnap Christian women and convert them to Islam forcibly. After they obtain a nikahnama (marriage deed) that prevents the Christian women from being restored to their faith"

Read about this wonderful "interfaith dialog" between and India and Fakistan:
"Despite the recent bonhomie in Indo-Pak ties, Pakistan has denied visas to a troupe of Indian musicians, including noted classical singer Shubha Mudgal, which was scheduled to perform in Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi. The nine musicians had to cancel their visit as the Pakistan high commission here denied them visas. “This is very disappointing that we were not given visa. In fact, this is also very surprising, given that the two countries are going through a time of camaraderie and friendship,” Mudgal told PTI. She said it was all the more unfortunate that visa was not granted because her’s was not a private visit but a programme organised by
a government body."

"How many people believe that the father of Kargil war, can have good intentions for peace? It's all facade, people."

Spread the message of boycott for your social justice! It is in your best interests to do that


Remember maoists were called 'Hindus' by murderous muslim dishonest villains? How can he explain this, "A Sanskrit University was burned down, Sanskrit teachers are killed, students are threatened with a similar fate if they continue studying Sanskrit. The Maoists are attempting to obliterate the culture..."

The Christian fundamentalist organisations in the US .... have made it appear that their action in demanding that Modi be barred from entry into the US was motivated by their outrage at the plight of Muslims in Gujarat. The real reason is their anger at his alleged action to prevent foreign Christian missionaries from indulging in proselytisation.

For the so-called secularists of India and of Indian origin in the US, Christian or Muslim fundamentalism is all right but Hindu assertiveness is a sin.

Not in India and among sections of Indians abroad. If one Indian stabs another Indian in the back with the help of a foreign power, he is considered a progressive, a liberal, a secularist. Cry, the beloved country!

The Hindus did the best to jump start with magnanimous giving

It is to the credit of BJP, VHP, RSS.. etc. that they have first allowed the ideal of synergy of diversity to sink in and move the country forward. It is not their fault it is not working. Realizing that they have become less idealistic and more realistic, having seen more and more evidence of savage exploitation of the larger civil society of India; Gandhi-Nehru socialism is not the best answer. The core beliefs has to be changed and back away from such Nehruvian romantic idealism, even if it makes some uncomfortable.

The murderous villains in the minority do not mind wanton and deliberate verbal and physical abuse of and even savagery on the majority, while those in the civilized larger civil society of India even mind offending the sensibilities of the minority.

It is extremely vulgar for the Indian minority to strip away and destroy irresponsibly the basic human rights of the civil society.

For the vast majority of your country, the best hope is the outstanding people in BJP, VHP, RSS.. etc. The rest minority are already "filthy rich" in parallel underground economy evading tax, running criminal syndicates outside the civil society. This minority includes some ex-Hindus like communists of Kerala or W Bengal, naxals, atheists like in DMK..etc.
There is no merit in the argument Nepal's idealogical agenda is to blame for all its ills. It is the ex-Hindus maoist proxy agents of external honchos that is the root cause of all its problems. These anti-national elements mght have a better and brighter future in Iraq fighting for their cause than in the sub-continent.

No one can take the pulse of the country reliably - and only guess the mood of the the leaders; I said 'mood' because politicians kepp changing their stand as if it is based on mood!

Redefine issues like interfaith dialog though one about need coexistence is kind of absolute once the pending legal issues like fugitives anf compensaiton for the Hindu deads are resolved.
Hindus want to keep the country moving fwd, being the engine for the train which has all this minority taking free ride plus free lunch.

I think it is not a wise or mature statement. You dont know the grip on the outside forces running the dynamics of the continuing savagery for another century, as long as the barbarism has been.
I dont fault bjp
I dont fault vhp
I dont fault rss
I simly cant.

Knowing Islam and Christianity are merely derivatives of Hinduism -
[evidence "Islam" means "surrender to God" that Hindus have been preaching for more than two millennia; Christianity preaches love thy neighbor the same way Hindus have been saying the whole is world is one big family - VASUDEVA KUTTUMBAKKAM...etc],

It sounds to me like
If you take a close look at
do it on the basis of the unsafe assumption that msulims would get civilized

The islamists and their subverted slaves are now in their intoxicated stupor, doing nothing but more harm for India in general and the Indian civil society in particular. Ugly people are irresponsibly causing ugly turns. I see boycott of their business is the only solution to teach these subversive perverts valuable lessons in fine citizenry and peaceful co-existence. After separate homeland in the best tracts of Indus and Gangetic Delta, the left-over vermins, pests and parasites are ruining the Holy Land of India ever more and further along the path of destruction, as if eight centuries of persecution of Hindus is not sufficient. Most of the Indian media is under the control of colonial remnants and is full of spin and no substance! They are either busy support the wily pakkis or the greedy islamists left dumped on India in 1947. Is there any truth in the prospect of peace from a rogue nation that invaded you more than a couple of times and subverted millions to its barbaric cause of death and destruction oof ordinary working Indians? One can never live in peace with muslim savages; it is as absurd as living in peace with wolves inside your house. These evil devils of fakistan and its crescent fascist slaves inside India continue to find new ways of defrauding, deceiving, cheating or duping you, the noble and gracious Hindus of the Holy Land that is also dumped with illegal pakki slaves dumped on you in 1947. Sadist fascists supporting anarchy Never in the history of mankind, one billion have been so voiceless and vulnerable, conversion assault being just one of the marauding ones on the Indian masses. Illegal migration from BanglaDesh and Fakistan continue too - nations notorious for ethnic cleansing, crimes against humanity and war crimes.


"this quote is attributed to
Zomo Kenyatta, first president of independent Kenya. He said this about Europeans (missionaries): When the Europeans came, we had the land and they had the bible. They said that this was the book of God, and asked us to meditate. When we opened our eyes, they had the land and we had the bible.."

Referring to, "The British will fight till the last Frenchman"
I must add a similar one about the evil evangelists whom the Jews conquered and Hindus could not and you could say, "Evangelists will fight to the last Hindu!"

There is a saying about the fanatic christian bigots, "When the bigots came to Africa, they had the bible and we had the land; now they have the land and we have the bible."

Same is true of Hawaii that has been insidiously taken over completely by the sleezy and slimy evangelicals and their commercial grabbers....from the native polynesians".

Now everyone is familiar with how these wily dudes denied food to the tsunami victims when they refused to get converted. What can be more cruel and wicked than that? They could not do that in Indonesia though, for you are the SOFT TARGETS and they are not - not the Muslims of Indonesia.

Did you note that there are no evangelicals in most of the Muslim countries!! Only targeting by predatory marketing and sale of Jesus happens in Mongolia, India and Sri Lanka where the people are most vulnerable and weak and are easily preyed upon. Only in India, Muslims sleep with the Christians, but fight to death in most other nations!!!

Don't you need more than one Hon Mr Modi to fight for Hindu and Sikh Rights and HINDU AUTONOMY or self-rule in Hindustan! He is perhaps the only one who recognizes the legitimate rights of the Hindus that have been denied for 800+ years - sovereign power to decide their own future and destiny. He is perhaps the only one who can offer optimism and hope to the despairing billion in and around India including Nepal - the voiceless and vulnerable billion indeed. Yes, by both the war-mongers of Fakistan and the hate-mongers of Hindustan are ruining India and Indians. Though nothing in the news is interesting or exciting, you are not even tending to take control of your own lives! If not today - someday, you will win the elections and defend your rights and even safeguard your women - last seems most difficult! Only protests and boycott of their business can put them in their place. Nothing else will. Now you know things worth fighting for. It is a non-violent tool to achieve what is denied to you - basic rights to live and worship. Even conversion can be ended by this tool. One billion is not a small number.

Instead of allowing the judicial process on getting the islamists criminals to be brought to justice, most of you do nothing to hold them accountable. Here Angana is talking hogwash, as if she knows not that even the police force is impotent vs. the savage islamists leaving many Falujah type no-go zones in Gujarat where even the police don't dare to enter - this is partly the reason Mr Modi might have felt that the **third or fourth** mass murder in Godhra railroad was a bit too much. Contrast your police with Israel that has very many tools to use in its kit, such as:- 1. CURFEWS; 2. ROAD BLOCKS; 3. TARGETED ASSASINATIONS; 4. HOUSE DEMOLITIONS; 5. RAIDS AND ROUND-UPS; 6. BARRIER WALL; 7. MEDIA HYPE OR PATRIOTIC MEDIA; 8. TAKING BLASTED BUS TO THE HAGUE FOR PUBLICITY AS EVIDENCE; 9. WESTERN SUPPORT; 10. USE OF OVERWHELMING MILITARY MIGHT INCLUDING AIR-POWER; 11. COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT LIKE CUTTING OFF OF WATER AND ELECTRICITY; etc. You guys have almost nothing - not even protective government - your own government is failing in its duties!! So, boycott is the only way! It is a no-brainer!! You can surely put a stop to their savagery by total **boycott** and get some measure of social justice. Why is there not much social disorder Why are there no conversions to christianity Why are there not many AIDS cases Why are there not many NGO's Why are there not many naxal/maoists Why are there not many serial mass murders like blasts and murders in Parliament, MARAD, GODHRA, in train, buses and cinema halls of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, or Burma but only in Hindustan? It is due to the islamists making your land their playground. Boycott their business for social justice!!

Balanced approach to heal wounds of the broader civil society in the long term calls for mandates on first bringing the guilty of the minority to face trials - such as the Dawood Ibrahims and Rev carnigans of your world to have their days in your courts. Basic point is raw deals are always worse than no deal at all!

GOOD NEWS!! On 3/20/2005 - BBC-Radio said ECONOMIC BOYCOTT BY MODI is working - the jihadis were vocal against it. That is the ball you need to run with and dont you ever drop the ball. It is simple non-violent tool. Canada is facing boycott of its seafood by USA. It has always worked. Keep focused and stay engaged. Poweer to you all!..!
If you boycott visiting offending countries, you get the power of managing your tourist dollars! You have the power of the **market** of a billion and ought to leverage it to the fullest extent and potential. Power to the Hindus!..!

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Posted by Munir.Akram on May 6, 2005

How can rabidly - antisemitic type - anti-Hindu and anti-Indian lowly creatures assume moral high ground and claim religious superiority that Madhu Kiswar is lamenting?

How can you trust the double speak of Abu Musa Zafar and irreverend d.p cunningham or pallu, the toddler, tugging at his mom's sari? Can you succeed in finding any smidgen of truth in their eyewash, white wash and smoke screens?

Is it not total waste of your time and efforts reading the deceitful drivel of these cyber thugs? How can there be a dialogue or friendly hand-shake with criminal jihadis and christian thugs bound for the prisons?

Posted by AmericanForIndia on May 6, 2005

Fortunately, I see gloom and doom for the vulgar minority brutes of India! Their colonial criminal hold is soon ending!! No more mogul or raj holds
that can now be charged with minding only public latrines for them to become useful !!!

Secularism and pluralism of Hindus is likely to dominate
in place of savage fanaticism and greedy and dishonest fascist bigotry of the minority!! I see gathering momentum of native culture taking their rightful role and rule from the criminal syndicate your ruling party symbolizes!!! (Those who are indirectly involved are almost as critical to naitonal security as those directly implicated). The minority of India are unable and unwilling to changing their current course of self-destructive path!!


Correction
A lot (99%?) of Americans are nationalists without causing harm to their country... But a lot (80% ?) of Bangladeshi's, pakkis and Indian minority
allow their religion to define their country/laws/others ( they don't care a shit about their country) and see what harm they cause..."


It is the Hindus that are really contributing nationlists in the real sense and it is the Hindus who are making the most positive contributions in terms of Nobel prize, winning various awards, and different laurels in USA, UK..etc.


Solid proof and clear evidence:
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Fifteen achievers of Indian origin from various fields of academic interest have been chosen for this year's Massachusetts Institute of Technology Sloan's Global Indus Technovators Awards.

The institute has chosen a mix of brilliant innovators -- graduate students, young professors, grassroots development workers and even successful entrepreneurs, for this year's honour, an MIT spokesman said.

The award winners in the area of Materials and Devices are Sridhar G Iyengar (AgaMatrix), Sanjay Sarma (Massachusetts Institute of Technology/OatSystems), Akhil Madhani (Walt Disney Imagineering, Research and Development), and Kailas Narendran (Massachusetts Institute of Technology).

Ganesh Venkataraman (Momenta Pharmaceuticals), Sangeeta Hatia (University of California San Diego), Ravi Kamath (Harvard Medical School student/ MGH resident), Vijay Pande (Stanford University) and Vamsi Mootha (Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard) shared the honours in the field of Biotechnology, Healthcare, and Medicine.
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ALL HINDUS! NO VULGAR CRIMINAL JUVENILE MINORITY BRUTES! Their contribution is all negative being only to the crime statistics of India!


"Renaissance period was the result of Europeans seeking inspiration from Greco-Roman civilization to come out of Christian dark age"
Your golden age of 'Renaissance ' is beginning! Seize control of it by boycotting the savage and criminal minority in every way possible!
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Posted by Miriam the Jew on May 6, 2005

Quotable quotes,

"One more feather in the caps of vulgar dPardeshi type anti-Indian criminal juveniles!! "

"It (Hindu backlash) hardly ever happens and when it does, a lot of times it has to do with (multiple provocation or)instigation on Muslim's part.." as in Godhra.

Turkey "is an Islamic country with islamic laws and no freedom
for other religionists."

A lot (99%?) of Americans are nationalist without causing harm to their
country or their minorities. But a lot (80% ?) of Bangladeshi's allow their religion to define their country/laws/others (and are not really nationlists in the real sense, they don't care a shit about their country) and see what harm they cause.

"... Muslims in Muslim countries should be very advanced, rich, intellectuals, scientists," why they are not?

"...give me another reason for Muslims being economically and socially behind the other religious groups in India despite being consistently treated better..."

Enough of colonial crums of alien christian and muslim cultures dominating your political scene for so many centuries!

Enough of hogwash from "vulgar dPardeshi type anti-Indian criminal juveniles!! "
Enough of waiting for justice form your criminal ruling party!!

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Career plans begin now - By Our Correspondent
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Pota court will decide on charges
- By Our Correspondent



Ahmedabad, May 5: Failure of public prosecutors in the Haren Pandya murder case to substantiate the allegations against three accused, has made the Pota Review Committee suggest that Pota charges be dropped against them. The final decision to waive off the charges will however lie with the designated Pota court.

The committee on Wednesday opined that Pota charges against Iftikar Hasmi, Abdul Bari from Hyderabad and Yusuf Ahmed Maniyari from Ahmedabad, be dropped.

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Colonial crums are dominating the political scene in India. For every one step fwd of Hindus, these dark forces are taking the nation backwards by four steps.
Ugly head of the religious colonialism is the worst form of of medieval politics that claims burial plot even after death, shames India in Intl Forums, opposes family planning..etc.

All this go on forever because your opponents have 'me, me' attitude of grab politics even using savage violence to seize and control, with no sense of humanity or decency or dignity. (Savage violence has persisted for centuries and are not "isolated criminal citations").

All these centuries of Hindu appeal for dialogue has been met with monologue from non-Hindus who say "Give me more or get killed; you are guilty because you are not forgetting my crimes!"

Infamous cowardly liars are in vulgar denial weaving webs of mass deception about millennium long islamist savagery.


All this won't happen if Hindus empower themselves by ***boycott*** of muslime and xian smugglers and traffickers.


Hi Guys! Read the debate on the COLUMN by Madhu Kishwar. Infamous cowardly liars are in vulgar denial weaving webs of mass deception about millennium long islamist savagery.

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Posted by KT.Rao on May 3, 2005


-------CONTINUED HATEFUL LIES BY CYBER TERRORIST binZAFAR-------------
News on American radio 4:14 PM 4/26/2005 Half a million Armenians forcibly deported from east turkey during WW-I and most killed.
They are **now** forced to live ghettoized squalor much like the Kurds.
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New pope opposed Turkey's inclusion in EU even when he was just a cardinal

NICE DITTY FOR YOU!!!
"When John-Paul II was here, we were all taught to fear
The very mention of condoms as sinful.
Better that African children should all die of AIDS
Than our doctrine get chucked by the binful.

Here in Europe, the Holy Father went on,
We face Orthodox, Russian and Greek.
And if Turkey join Europe there will be more Moslems than Catholics
This is no time for ecumenical speak."

TURKEY IS STILL A BRUTAL FUNDAMENTALIST STATE THOUGH LESS BRUTAL THAN BANGLA-DESH OR OTHER 60 ODD SAVAGE LANDS
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7:04 pM 4/14/2005 PKK men died in Turkey in 'security' operations


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Why did this happen - something quite unrelated to India and Hindus ?-----------
With no provocation, the bloodthirsty savage criminal islamists - during Khilafat carnage - massacred 1000's of Hindus in Kerala, for an event in farway Turkey similar to the murder of Hindus for the remarks of Jerry Falwell in distant USA.

To this day, these savage criminal islamist burden continues to damage our economy and social order with impunity.
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=====TRUTH AND LOGIC UNDERLYING TO HINDU CONDITION NOW====
As Albert Hirschman said, people can either voice or exit in a political environment. If people cannot voice, they will exit. And then, once they're outside the political process, there's only one avenue of expression open to them, and that's violence.
THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO HINDUS BEING outside the political process====

*********NOBEL PRIZE WINNER NELSON MANDELA BECAME VIOLENT BEYOND A POINT - EVIDENCE FROM HISTORY******
On 21 March 1960 at least 180 black Africans were injured (there are claims of as many as 300) and 69 killed
when South African police opened fire on approximately 300 demonstrators, who were protesting against the pass laws,
at the township of Sharpeville, near Vereeniging in the Transvaal. The Sharpeville Massacre, as the event has become known, signalled the start of armed resistance in South Africa,
and prompted worldwide condemnation of South Africa's Apartheid policies.

OURS IS ALSO THE CASE OF MAJORITY ***SAVAGELY*** TREATED BY EVIL MINORITY
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People like Lala Lajpat Rai, Dr. Ambedkar etc have raised doubts if it is possible for muslims not to use their religion as primary identifier. Even some muslims agree. Kemal Ataturk said that "Islam is a stinking corpse" and reformed Turkish society by military bayonets.
If the Hindu pluralists don't speak out, the minority extremists will continue to control the discourse, as has been happening so far.
It is equality that Hindus want - not superiority over other religions. Our ethos is never to say "I feel morally superior to a muslime savage bigot, to every xian fanatic crook and stupid Sikh militant..."

If the barbaric muslime savages and xian crooks dont shape up and reject peaceful coexistence, Hindus may not still descent to such subhuman levels.
It is doubtful if they'd be tolerant endlessly. The stupid minority are bringing more harm to themselves by continuing on the path of savage criminality. No one likes such turn of events.

The evil muslime devils have no time for integration or assimilation. No time for any peaceful coexistence as shown by zillions of riots which as a police chief found out is mostly directed **first** at the police, then at the broader civil society.

We need to admire Bush, Sharon and the Chinese leaders for bringing STABILITY to their **homelands** by taking the fight to the terrorists, by "staying on the offensive" all in "self-defense". Don’t the Indians in general and Gujarathis in particular deserve **the right of self-defense**? How many riots should we tolerate before there is a backlash by the public?
To safeguard our own interests, we need to spread the msg of total boycott. Boycott for social and political justice!!..! End dangerous dependence on anti-Indians! Help defeat continued persecution and oppression of native Hindu ancient culture by anti-Indians!! Defend India and Indians!!!

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Posted by KT.Rao on May 3, 2005

The central issue is the inequality of religions in the eyes of our laws and institutions. Only we are ill-treated with sinister discrimination. We got plenty of overwhelming and solid evidence below.


---------SAVAGE MUSLIME CRIMINALS GET BAIL NOT KANCHI SEER EXPOSING HATEFUL LIES of binZafar who said our police dont like
muslime criminals---They do and release them on bail-------

Tripathi said that Rashid was among the five SIMI activists recently released on bail. Rashid's brother was earlier arrested in Surat, he said.

DIG (Mirzapur) Guru Darshan Singh said that Rashid's role in the Godhra carnage was established on the basis of the phone calls he made a day before the attack on Sabarmati Express carrying karsevaks from Ayodhya.

The DIG said that Rashid was SIMI district president. Cases under relevant sections had been registered against him, he said.

====How binZafar spread lies and hate that Godhra was an accident============
The Rediff Interview/Amit Shah

February 27, 2003

People may not justify it because they don't have all the facts before them. Since the investigation of the case is going on, I can't share much information. One of the accused Zabir Bin Yamin Behra has confessed in open court that Godhra is not the result of an accident or provocation but it was a cold-blooded conspiracy.
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Everyone knows that theology of Judaism preaches, "an eye for en eye" and Hinduism probably preaches, Just War (Dharma Yudh), Christianity teaches love and turning the other cheek and so on. Strangely, I find the Hindus always turn the other cheek, with little or no backlash for millions of savage serial murders by the villainous muslims. (There has been only one big backlash post Godhra that was perhaps again ignited by the same villains who attacked the Hindus returning from the cremation grounds after last rites for their victims of traincar carnage). Thus, one might conclude that the "noble and gracious" Hindus behave more like the Christians, almost always turning the other cheek.

Sharon of Israel always justifies excessive military force by saying his people have the right of self-defense. I must add that Bush's massive use of overwhelming military force, namely, artillery and air-strikes, in Falujah is in sharp contrast to India where most of the muslim criminals go scot free while the victims get blame, hate and lies or even get prosecuted.

Such is the truth as revealed by Sankar,
"observe how when any mullah or padre is accused, the whole community and their companions with Hindu names express solidarity with them however grave the charges. Teesta Salvad is one example and so were that girl and her co-terrorists killed in ahmedabad(why isn't modi changing the name of the city).
In Kerala a Muslim League leader is accussed of raping children and the muslim community and Congress are behind him. They even arrested the girl who was raped with attempted suicide."


"...their crimes include trafficking in women, drugs, counterfeit and guns. Today, BBC quoted that the saudis are becoming aware of this. Anything to do with the vulgar muslim brutes smacks of treachery and betrayal, like the kalam dude betraying the BJP who enthroned him - all because you lost the elections being not serious, now you have no authority to intervene to control or contain further disastrous decisions like opening borders, giving easy visas... all these decisions already implemented even like gandhi did w/o public consensus or referendum.

You'd be only partly right when you mention the culpability of these trafficking brutes; how about rapists and serial mass murderers, other millions harboring pakki agents, bangladeshi aliens, Bombay underworld mafia, and so on pointing to muslim culpability and criminal liability to countless crimes that have not even been begun to be enumerated, leave alone being prosecuted."

From these following quotes from earlier posters, this is what has been happening year after year or decade after decade - all preplanned organized crimes
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EXHIBIT-A
Bhiwandi (1970)
Tellicherry Disturbances (1971)
Firozabad (1972)
Aligarh (1978)
Meerut (1982, 87)
Meerut 1987 Dead: 350
Moradabad (1980)
Delhi (1984) Dead: 2,733
Bhagalpur (1989) 27 October 1989
Bombay (1992-93) Dead: 1,788 etc..
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EXHIBIT-B
a. when Jinah's repeated call for so-called Direct Action killed millions;
b. when more than 3000 were butchered by the bloodthirsty islamists in cold blood for a mere building in ruins, i.e. after the building in ruins called Babri Masjid where no one worshipped was brought down by Indians who wanted to reclaim their sacred land;
c. when the bloodthirsty islamists - during Khilafat carnage - massacred 1000's of Hindus in Kerala, for an event in farway Turkey similar to the murder of Hindus for the remarks of Jerry Falwell in distant USA;
d. when in Kanpur riots, just a pig is supposed to have been the pretext for murder of 1000's of Indians by the bloodthirsty islamists;
e. egregious and horrendous deaths of ten for something quite unrelated to India and Hindus - bad mouthing of islam by JERRY FALWELL; etc.
f ".. the serial blasts in Coimbatore, which killed over 60 people during Mr L.K. Advani’s electioneering in February 1998.

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EXHIBIT-C
Some months back in hyderabad some muslims blasted a powerful bomb in SAIBABA temple some get killed and some injured. The VHP called for bundh but no not even luke warm response in hyderabad. Does it mean that it didnot made any mark on hindus. ... when something of that sort happens it is easy to organize riots ofterall what it needs power and momentarily madness that's all.

Posted by akbar on 28-FEB-03
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EXHIBIT-D
=====postGodhra savagery on helpful doctors
"In the past too, Hindu doctors practising in Muslim-dominated areas like Jamalpur and Gomtipur
have been fatally attacked. And yesterday's attack on Dr Mehta should serve as a warning to Hindu
doctors to quit practising in Muslim areas," ADF founder-member Dr Bharat Amin told TNN.

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EXHIBIT-A, B, C AND D do not have much in common. What does it show? It convincingly shows muslim savagery known to you is a minor fraction - tip of the iceberg - as the saying goes. Countless others have apparently gone unreported. Most have gone unpunished too.

all these show excessive rights of the muslims of India flexing their excessive power and that "Power corrupts absolutely." The minority of India do not suffer much even if they keep the host culture antogonized and alienated. That is why, boycott is the best medicine to set things right.
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The Only Thing Necessary For The Triumph Of Evil
Is For Good Men To Do Nothing. Edmund Burke
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We know only too well MARAD case has almost stopped in which pogram the murderers got state benefits by way of new housing, if I am right. That is just one out of zillion cases. And yet, we see Best bakery alleged incident is being taken all out of proportions.

Blaming the victims is all too common. It clearly proves unequal levels of justice purely on the basis of religious affiliation. Most of the crimes there in India - are committed by muslime serial mass murderers and christian rapists. You get more evidence by the day. If India were to give Capital Punishment for trafficking in women, guns, drugs and counterfeit, you can soon be rid of half of your criminal population! Add to the list rapists and serial mass murderers too. I read in ASIAN AGE this, "Mohammed Hashim, 75, is guilty of raping his own daughters". I notice this is not the only type of crimes the vulgar brutes are involved with.
"Dialogue is impossible as long as :=
A. there is no annual compensation for the illegal occupation of the Indian
homelands by Muslims left behind by tricky pakkis.

B. the rapists of the altar boys and choir girls are not arrested and jailed;
C. there is no compensation for the victims of jihadi riots and murders and punishment
for the culprits; etc.

DO YOU WANT TO BE SYMPATHETIC TO MURDEROUS MUSLIM CRIMINAL BRUTES AND THEIR CHRISTIAN BED FELLOWS WHO HAVE DENIED YOUR BASIC CIVIL RIGHT TO WORSHIP? BRUTES KEEP DENYING YOUR BASIC CIVIL RIGHT TO WORSHIP when the colonial crums often stone criminally your Hindu street functions.

Don't you want to feed **your own poor** who number more than 440 million now - living in squalor *watching* the muslim criminals run killing fields while you are silenced yet again in the name of SECULARISM?
Being super-human in dealing with subhuman cannot help one bit. At the levels and frequency of savagery oyu have experienced, any other society would have taken corrective action with more immediacy.

All this go on forever because our opponents have 'me, me' attitude of grab politics even using savage violence to seize and control, with no sense of humanity or decency or dignity. (Savage violence has persisted for centuries and are not "isolated criminal citations"). Now the Hindus "throw it back.... It goes on forever."
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Posted by KT.Rao on May 1, 2005
It is rather that Hindus are indeed excessively *magnanimous* in having let 110+ mil of the evil muslime devils to stay back after the dismemberment; magnanimous in having let conversion as a constitutional provision.. and dozens of other excessive privileges to the savage muslimes
and xian crooks.

Because they are excessively *tolerant* that they didn't even protest official mourning of a terrorist who called upon his followers to wipe out pagan population by planting the cross in Asia in the same manner in which it was done in Europe and the Americas.

It is the India minority who needs to be on trial for "the way these morons bribe, kill, plunder, loot, and create havoc for petty selfish gains in their own country defies any resemblance with magnanimity."
Look at the bWood khans in nexus with Mumbai muslime underworld who "bribe, kill, plunder, loot, and create havoc for petty selfish gains."
Look at the m.k of DMK, TN in nexus with xians and muslimes who "bribe, kill, plunder, loot, and create havoc for petty selfish gains."
Look at the congress party hotshots and their shining filth lalu prasad yadav in nexus with xians and muslimes who "bribe, kill, plunder, loot, and create havoc for petty selfish gains."

The number of real Hindus in the above three categories is very neglible - mostly "subverted fools" who act as political tools of those in the above three categories getting perhaps only left-over crums.

Neither are the India minority tolerant. "These freaks of nature are an embodiment of sloth, ignorance and shamelessness of the highest order. "Morons who don't even protest" savage violence and mafia extortion by terrorists
like Dawood Ibrahim, Sunny Varkey, Shahabuddin ... "who call upon their followers to wipe out" our economy by planting the black market in the subcontinent in the same manner in which it was done in Afghanistan
and the Latin Americas, "do not deserve a dignified human life. And they are aptly reaping what they forgot to sow - human dignity." Xians and muslimes "are undignified living beings who are a major embarrassment even to their creator."


Here is the solid evidence for one criminal in nexus with maino's minions-

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Buta resists pressure against raids

30 April 2005: Some Muslim MPs and MLAs cutting across party lines tried to prevent or minimise the impact of the Bihar STF raid on ancestral properties
and homes of the notorious RJD politician, Mohammed Shahabuddin, last week, and one of those who called state governor Buta Singh on his behalf was Sonia Gandhi’s self-advertised
political secretary, Ahmed Patel.

Congress stalwarts said that while Shahabuddin’s mentor, railway minister Laloo Prasad Yadav, tried in vain with both Sonia and prime minister Manmohan Singh to stop the STF raids, Patel tried
to pressure the governor, who said they were carried out in due process of law, and could not be called off.


Shahabuddin, an RJD MP, is a notorious history-sheeter, and the agencies have a dossier of his alleged ISI connections, and since the February assembly elections, he has been externed from his constituency, Siwan, for six months on orders of the district administration, and the STF raids on his properties led to the arrest of two criminal colleagues and recovery of weapons, ammunition, animal skin, night-vision devices, and stolen vehicles.

Officials said that Shahabuddin got intimation of the raids while at a Delhi farmhouse, and worked his contacts with Muslim politicians in the RJD, Samajwadi Party, Congress
and other UPA allies to push Ahmed Patel to intervene on his behalf, who reportedly called Buta, hoping to bamboozle him with the weight of his alleged proximity to Sonia Gandhi.

“But the raids were authorised by Delhi,” said a senior Congressman, “at the highest levels, and therefore, Buta Singh could stand up to the pressure. Whatever Ahmed Patel
might portray in the market, the top Central ministers know the inside story, because they have direct links with Sonia. Even Laloo could not stop the raids, and more are coming.”

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AmericanForIndia 's comment on
Gujarat police nab D-man, as Mumbai cops nap [ Posted by parsuram ]

In connection with the serial blasts in Coimbatore, which killed over 60 people during Mr L.K. Advani’s electioneering

in February 1998, the news report was "Top leaders of Al-Umma and Jihad Committee were arrested for the blasts."


I'll not be surprised if those fellows are let off citing "no evidence" ... There seems to be something fundamentally wrong with Tamil Nadu Govt. in general and its CM in particular...



The trend you see is that the savage minority of India is quite bent on killing for robbing and raping for dishonoring, converting for expanding the religious empire of islam and christianity.

Posted by Munir.Akram on Mar 27, 2005

All anti-Hindu outfits are violent, sectarian movements based upon the premise of anti-Hindu supremacy.

That is why and how Hindus have been reduced to cleansed minority in Kashmir, Assam and Kerala.... persecuted masses in the rest of India. Jihadi politics hurts and harms everyone - Mussalman, Hindus, Christians, Sikhs, Jain..etc.

All the facts documenting serial mass murders listed by several several times, must prove to anti-Indians and their syndicate why their jihadis are loathed the world over for their despicable savagery, especially in Russia after Beslan, USA after 9-11, Spain after 3-11, Thailand and India after several 9-11/3-11's. If Iraqi majority deserve self-rule, Indian majority deserve too.

Face the facts honestly before supporting savage serial violence, including deaths of ten for remarks of Jerry Falwell in far away USA, innocent voiceless and weak billion. Anti-Indians, don't support further inflation and ruin of Indian economy by arms-race spurred by Pakistan. My family too is adversely affected by such forced poverty.

If you cannot help, it is fine. But don't ever harm or hurt! That is the basis of common humanity, decency and dignity. Allah hu Akbar!!!
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Posted by Munir.Akram on Mar 27, 2005

No, this comary is an escapist from maximum security prison now in the guise of a bearded naked beggar in the streets of Karachi, stinky from his rotting body!!! It is ok for his fascist donors to kill or rape, for he has been desensitised from having been raped many times.

No siree! No saree for this man, preferring to be naked!!..!

Is he able to understand facts or is he a moronic imbecile? More facts:=
======================/////////Evidence SELF-DEFENSE IS SOLID DEFENSE////////////////////////////
United Nations Defends Congo Peacekeepers
United Nations Defends Peacekeepers' Killing Up to 60 Militiamen in Congo

People stand around photos of nine Bangladeshi UN peacekeepers during a memorial service in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo Tuesday, March 1, 2005. The nine UN peacekeepers were killed last week in northeastern Congo. Congo's defense minister vowed on Tuesday to hunt down the militiamen who killed nine U.N. Bangladeshi troops in the worst single loss suffered by the world body's peace mission since it deployed in 1999. (AP Photo/Schalk van Zuydam)
By NICK WADHAMS Associated Press Writer
The Associated PressThe Associated Press

UNITED NATIONS Mar 3, 2005 — U.N. officials defended peacekeepers who killed up to 60 militiamen in a gunbattle in Congo, saying the international troops were acting in ***self-defense*** and protecting civilians who had been terrorized for years.

The high death count and fierce fighting defied the notion that U.N. peacekeepers stick to defense rather than joining the fight. But the Congo mission was given a stronger mandate last year to round up guns and defend the populace.

The 242 Pakistani peacekeepers were on a mission to dismantle a militant headquarters near the village of Loga, in lawless Ituri province in eastern Congo, when they came under fire. They responded with sustained fire that included air support from Indian attack helicopters.


"These militias had been preying on villagers and it was felt it was the U.N.'s role to protect the vulnerable population, and that's what the aim of the mission was," U.N. associate spokesman Stephane Dujarric said.

The region has seen intense violence lately including the slaying of nine Bangladeshi peacekeepers on Friday.

Details emerged suggesting that the nine peacekeepers had been kept alive and were then executed after the ambush. Late Wednesday, the United Nations said the nine peacekeepers were shot at point-blank range, and their bodies were stripped of all weapons, ammunition, uniforms, and all equipment.

Pathetically predicatable!!! Perspective from a pitiable religious prejudice!!!

BJP had more votes than Congress. BJP had the most votes, but because of coalition politics (parliamentary democracy system) Congress hooked up with the Commies and are in office. In the Pres. system, the BJP probably would have won the election (depends on which states it took).
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AmericanForIndia 's comment on
Indian Film Star Contemplates First Screen Kiss [ Posted by JeeQ ]

I totally agree with my fellow christian,
"Jeeq and other idiots of sulekha are supporting islamic influence by subjugating
a women to barbaric principles of mohmed devil, rather than suporting women to be more assertive."
Your women are ebing raped or seduced and nothing is being done about it.

Movies and cricket cause or result in frenzied college girls wanting to meet up with the islamist players. Slow, soft subversion by media ads showing khans **in your face** too have been ongoing; what is your plan, moving fwd? Are you gonna write to - say, Citi Bank of *boycott* plan if this is not stopped?
AmericanForIndia 's comment on
US plans lifetime detention for terrorism suspects: report [ Posted by parsuram ]



I have not seen anything like the venom in these pages any time in my life - wanton neglect of Hindus by anti-semitic type wolves to be savagely and serially attacked by islamist terrorists. Here is what I have saved in my files,

"While even worms do not hurt other worms or other creatures, the following is solid, clear and compelling evidence how external anti-Indians are pupetteering those inside that are running killing fields like these-

These anti-national **criminal** communalists are clearly enjoying *excessive* rights - right to kill at will - unchecked and unpunished crimes - with unlimited freedom to kill, rape and riot anywhere, any time - partial list of terror [leave alone lies spread by fellow criminals]:-

* After an old unsused bldg called babri was reclaimed by the natives, 3000+ true Indian citizens were indeed slaughtered that 'black' December 6 - by incitement of Delhi imam. (The imam is still roaming freely as a fugitive of the law of the land. Is he above the law of land? He is). Does that mean unused babri building that was already in ruins =3000+ lives ??

As are countless other murderers for other pogroms such as POGROMS

* when british arrested caliph of distant turkey, a rampage in Kerala saw slaughter of 1000's of Hindus savagely slaughtered

* in 1969, when Israeli army entered al-Aqsa mosque thousands of miles away, hindus were butchered - for no fault;

* when on October 10 2001 right around 9-11, nine Hindus were killed in Sholapur, under the pretext of protesting a distant American's [Jerry Falwell] remarks in far away USA;

* when the muslims rioted in parts of Mumbai specifically targeting hindu property while protesting against the already banned rushdie'ss book called satanic verses;

* when tens were killed at the Gateway of India during twin blasts of Bombay, MARAD, GODHRA, temples, trains and buses for no apparent reason;

* "In 1946 or thereabouts the Muslim atrocities perpetrated on Sikhs and Hindus under the Government patronage of Suhrawardy in Noakhali that made our blood boil;"

* when the anti-Indians went on rampage causing injury to people and damage to property when USA attacked Iraq;

* when thousands murdered for a pig running by an unholy mosque;

* when the criminal colonialists often stone Hindu street functions;

* when 32 Hindus were killed by kalam's barbaric men in the savage attack of Akshardham temple;

* "Black Friday" of March 12, 1993 when 257 lives were savagely slaughtered injuring 713 - serial blasts that shattered the city; etc.

* when the evil islamists rioted in parts of mumbai specifically targeting Hindu property while protesting against the already banned rushedies satanic verses book;

* Two persons were killed and 49 injured when a powerful blast ripped through a BEST bus outside Ghatkopar railway station on December 2, 2002; etc?

* when the Kalam’s colonialists often stone your Ganesh and Hanuman street functions; etc.

all proving excessive rights of the vulgar muslim criminal brutes. Most of them have /////**escaped**//// the long arm of justice too.

All because of criminalized use of secularism, rule of law or social order is yet to take root in the Holy Land of the Sikhs and Hindus- now run by "wicked christians and cruel muslims." The sad result:- colonialism has not yet ended - definitely the religious type."

I totally agree with Mr Rao in terms of his assessment here and what he wrote in one of the emails, "If we had any SAFFRON type resistance to illegal occupation and killer waves of crimes with no disaster relief to the victims, we wont be seeing serial mass murders for several centuries that is still ongoing now. We wish we had muscled SANGHI to defend us robustly. Sadly, we dont. Most are toothless and powerless." He meant 'by denial of disaster relief' the fact that IDRF was sought to be undermmined by a few **cruel and wicked**academicians that tried to stop Hindu aid to fellow Hindus - victims of disasters like earth quakes, tsunami...etc. from reaching the Hindus.

Don't you need more than one Hon Mr Modi to fight for Hindu and Sikh Rights and HINDU AUTONOMY or self-rule in Hindustan! He is perhaps the only one who recognizes the legitimate rights of the Hindus that have been denied for 800+ years - sovereign power to decide their own future and destiny. He is perhaps the only one who can offer optimism and hope to the despairing billion in and around India including Nepal - the "voiceless and vulnerable" billion indeed.

Yes, both the war-mongers of Fakistan and the hate-mongers of 'Hindustan' are ruining India and Indians. Though nothing in the news is interesting or exciting, you are not even tending to take control of your own lives! If not today - someday, you will win the elections and defend your rights and even safeguard your women - last seems most difficult! (Any doubt?!)

This position IS reasonable. That of anti-Indians ridiculous rant has not been.

Though not knowing what SAFFRONITE really means, I must say you have many to make you more unsafe and virtually no one to defend your rights and stand up for the safety and security that are life and death issues. Bread and butter come later.

"Exploitation and sexploitation" might be minor but serial mass murders are indeed *major.* With more gandhis being subverted to the terrorist cause, opposing view to balance it might be, 'DONT GET PARANOID' but in a calamitous situation like this one where Mr Modi is told to shut himself up no matter what savage murder happens around him, delicately balancing security and civil rights by soft inaction towards terrorist criminals is sure to lead to worsening of the issues. When you deal with security threats and their social effects, only focus must be counter offensive not economy or food, water, sanitation, road access... Same way with **national security threats** that you are facing for 100's of years; you need single tracked, obsessive focus.

Even boycott is not easy. How are you spreading the message - say to the masses who do not know English? To the women and children who are being brainwashed like Mira Nair or zillion others targeted for promoting anti-Indian cause? Power to the Hindus!

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KT.Rao 's comment on
I didn't ask Bakery case to be shifted: Zaheera [ Posted by LittleFella ]

How true and wonderful it is to know 1st hand info about Sangh not many knew!
"how stupid it is accuse sangh of creating riots, giving military training and blah blah. calling them facist!!!! aqll these things just piss me off coz they r NOT true."

IF THERE WERE POWERFUL SANGHIs AMONGST US, THERE'D BEEN NO-
** bloody dismemberment of Hindustan;
** no ethnic cleansing in KASHMIR, KERALA, ASSAM and genocide everywhere;
** mind games and psy-war by the savages;
** overniceness to the evil muslime devils;
** silent observing [w/o backlash] of the GAZILLION barbaric attacks by the savage muslims; [leave alone attack by vulgar M.F. Hussain's obscene paintings];
** arrest of the Kanchi Sankaracharya, H.H Jayendra Saraswathi;
** indecent dethroning of an elected Chief Minister like Hon Smt Uma Bharati of MP;
** network of terrorists inside and outside that have gone unpunished and unchecked;
** the unquestioning Hindus and uncritical Indians allowing media full of lies and hate;
** subversion of the so-called institutions of justice like the subverted Supreme Court that are now more impotent and anti-national than the evil devils themselves;
** Pograms [defined as attempt to wipe out some segment] that have visited us on many occasions,
a. when Jinah's repeated call for so-called Direct Action killed millions;
b. when more than 3000 were butchered by the bloodthirsty islamists in cold blood for a mere building in ruins, i.e. after the building in ruins called Babri Masjid where no one worshipped was brought down by Indians who wanted to reclaim their sacred land;
c. when the bloodthirsty islamists - during Khilafat carnage - massacred 1000's of Hindus in Kerala, for an event in farway Turkey similar to the murder of Hindus for the remarks of Jerry Falwell in distant USA;
d. when in Kanpur riots, just a pig is supposed to have been the pretext for murder of 1000's of Indians by the bloodthirsty islamists;
e. death of ten for somehting quite unrleated to India and HIndus - bad mouthing of islam by JERRY FALWELL; etc.
[many more unreported such pograms that might have taken place on very many more unreported areas - all likely to have been initiated and executed by the bloodthirsty islamists and seldom by the Indians].


IF THERE WERE POWERFUL SANGHIs AMONGST US, THERE'D BE-
** bloody dismemberment of Hindustan;
** no ethnic cleansing in KASHMIR, KERALA, ASSAM and genocide everywhere;
** mind games and psy-war by the savages;
** overniceness to the evil muslime devils;
** silent observing [w/o backlash] of the GAZILLION barbaric attacks by the savage muslims; [leave alone attack by vulgar M.F. Hussain's obscene paintings];
** arrest of the Kanchi Sankaracharya, H.H Jayendra Saraswathi;
** indecent dethroning of an elected Chief Minister like Hon Smt Uma Bharati of MP;
** network of terrorists inside and outside that have gone unpunished and unchecked;
** the unquestioning Hindus and uncritical Indians allowing media full of lies and hate;
** subversion of the so-called institutions of justice like the subverted Supreme Court that are now more impotent and anti-national than the evil devils themselves;

* total boycott by us - political, economic and social;
* at least a few hundred Hindus that are angry and vengeful filled with hate like they are now;
* BJP win of the elections and VHP, BD, RSS, SP, all'da some muscle power;
* surely social and political justice; etc
* SLAUGHTER of more than 3000 innocent people in Bombay Bomb blast.

IF THERE WERE POWERFUL SANGHIs AMONGST US,
* we wont be vulnerable and voiceless as we are now, inspite of being the majority;
* imam of delhi wont be above the law of the land; etc.
* we'da made those who stayed behind law-abiding citizens not a bunch of goons, thugs and criminals, denying us our legitimate rights, by greedy, fascist, dishonest and worse criminal means.


IF THERE WERE POWERFUL SANGHIs AMONGST US,THERE'D BEEN NO-
islamist SAVAGE barbarians who, during postGodhra,
* managed to kill as many as 600 Hindus;
* damaged more than a billion worth property;
* manipulated the police to kill the Hindus and Sikhs;
* threw acid on the faces of Hindus permanently disfiguring them..etc"


IF THERE WERE POWERFUL SANGHIs AMONGST US, THERE'D BE NO-
* excessive rights for the evil muslime devils with no legal consequence for their gazillion crimes;
* unlimited freedom for them to kill, rape and riot anywhere, any time -
* mobocracy by riots, ubiquitous rape and worst of all, serial mass murders by which we saw all the totally unprovoked pogroms of mass murders did take place in widespread and repeated manner, whether you include the recent ones like Marad, Godhra, blasts in buses, trains, taxis, (Akshardam) temples, cinema halls or not;
* anti-Indians living right amongst us that are
* claiming burial land even after death,
* having too many babies,
* imposing their fascist conversion agenda and religion on us;

** greedy dishonest sense of ownership and entitlement among the evil mousies illegally and immorally left abandoned upon us, rightful owners of Indian soil with arid lands and eroding rights;
** conversion-subversion-migration;
** hijacking of rule by the majority by proxy naxal murders contracted by the ten percent minority and other voting violations for more than five decades now
** falsification of facts by a criminal islamist society that is
corrupting the society by hate and lies;
** hatemongers inside India and Warmongers outside ruining Indian social fabric and economic stability by arms-race and frightening away FDI; ** losing representation by us and facing taxation without representation;
* grand larceny of public lands by the fascist xians;
* gazillion uncovered abuse of children and minors in churches;
* sleeping with the muslime evil devils; etc

** pervasive criminal syndicate on such scale as embodied in this news,
"But the masterminds, Khaja Mohideen (45) of Neyveli and Abdul Khani escaped.
According to the police sources, the MNP was said to be having a nationwide network and was suspected to have links with the Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front of Yasin Malik and acted as a recruiting agency to beef up the terrorist forces in Jammu and Kashmir" and then 'Funded from Riyadh.'"

*** invasion of our Holy Land by the savage hordes nor their barbairc violence, in the 1st place;

*** such a poor standard of politics because of mosque and church interference in it.


IF THERE WERE SANGHIs AMONGST US, THERE'D BE NO-
* excessive rights for the evil muslime devils with no legal consequence for their gazillion crimes;
* unlimited freedom for them to kill, rape and riot anywhere, any time -
* mobocracy by riots, ubiquitous rape and worst of all, serial mass murders by which we saw all the totally unprovoked pogroms of mass murders did take place in widespread and repeated manner, whether you include the recent ones like Marad, Godhra, blasts in buses, trains, taxis, (Akshardam) temples, cinema halls or not;
* anti-Indians living right amongst us that are
* claiming burial land even after death,
* having too many babies,
* imposing their fascist conversion agenda and religion on us;
If we had any SANGHI type resistance to illegal occupation and killer waves of crimes with no disaster relief to the victims, we wont be seeing serial mass murders for several centuries that is still ongoing now. We wish we had muscled SANGHI to defend us robustly. Sadly, we dont. Most are toothless and
powerless.


ALL - SIGNIFYING excessive rights - WITHOUT ANY PROVOCATION AND MANY FOR LOCAL EVIL DEVILS MURDERING US FOR THINGS OVERSEAS. Someone said "out of 100 cases it must be 99 percent of the time muslims have broken the law ..and you cry foul over one godhra riots ??" For centuries on end, they have been running killing fields with little or **no** legal consequence, the tactics Jinah perfected.

We are under taxation sans representation regime of communalists like MMS and Antonio Maino.

Can you imagine a society more vulgar and beastly than that of the muslim savages? No, never. Isn't all this immoral, illegal and unethical by any standard? No other nation has suffered as much and no other nationals have endured as much. If we cannot safeguard our own interests but are bent pleasing everyone else, who will take care of us?

Where is secularism or democracy in India? We have been made to regret often allowing the 1947 parasites to remain dumped on us as unwelcome burden. Boycott works! Let us boycott to get social and political justice for vulnerable and voiceless Hindu majority! To conclude, We need Sanghis in large numbers to guarantee
an iota of safety and security.

WE HAVE SUFFERED TOO MUCH AND THE EVIL MUSLIME VERMINS ARE GRABBING TOO MUCH AND INFLICTING TOO MANY CRIMES ON US, WITH NO PUNISHMENT OR
JAIL TIME. Be warned too that if you dont boycott Christian and Muslim business and NGO's, many more of their crimes might go unpunished, many more unreported and many, many, many more unchecked. JAI HIND!

AmericanForIndia 's comment on
Argument over faiths probed in killing of 4 [ Posted by silent Twilight ]

Remember this, "muslims being in majority or minority makes no difference" only critical fact is that
"paedopile cultist fanatic" brutes kill with no regard to life or your way of life or respect for others or other viewpoints - only viewpoint important is the that of dishonest "paedopile cultist fanatic" brutes themselves.

Lives of true Indian citizens might continue to be at risk if there is no ****boycott****.
Given even Hindu festivities like for Ganesh was stoned, it is clear who had the upper hand. There had been many murders even before Godhra mass murder. This was the rela news:=
||“726 people in all were killed; of this number, we were told, 552 were Muslims and 168 were Hindus including, never forget, the 58 kar sevaks charred in a railway bogey.

On Friday, the court granted bail to four other people accused in the case.
However one who was on bail, Salim Zarda, absconded two days ago.”|| and during postGodhra, the unwelcome guests of 1947
* managed to kill as many as 600 Hindus;
* damaged more than a billion worth property;
* manipulated the police to kill the Hindus and Sikhs;
* threw acid on the faces of Hindus permanently disfiguring them..etc"
all pointing to unlimited freedom for them to kill, rape and riot anywhere, any time, as here:=
//////"CUDDALORE, OCT. 28. The Cuddalore police claim to have busted a fundamentalist outfit — Manitha Neethi Pasarai (MNP) located at Nellikuppam — which has been allegedly converting Dalits into Islam and imparting training to them in handling weapons and martial arts."



KT.Rao 's comment on

After having just finished that there are practically no SANGHI's amongst us, I am surprised at yr statement, "I think you Sanghis are trying to create a semetic version of India with your BS."

If we had any SANGHI type resistance to illegal occupation and killer waves of crimes with no disaster relief to the victims, we wont be seeing serial mass murders for several centuries that is still ongoing now. We wish we had muscled SANGHI to defend us robustly. Sadly, we dont. Most are toothless and powerless. Let me remind all with these shocking news items-
///////////New Delhi, 1 May 1997 Govt seeks revision of order on Naib Imam
HT Correspondent Justice Mehra remarked, “He (Naib Imam) has not appeared before the court even once. He has to show respect to the court and the law of the land.”

The Naib Imam was charged with sedition for his speech at Jama Masjid on January 22, 1993 after the demolition of Babri mosque and a case was registered against him on May 14, 1993.
//////////////////
A FEW WEEKS AGO, CONVERSION CRIMINALS WERE FOUND TO HAVE WEAPONS AND SOME ESCAPED
//////"CUDDALORE, OCT. 28. The Cuddalore police claim to have busted a fundamentalist outfit — Manitha Neethi Pasarai (MNP) located at Nellikuppam — which has been allegedly converting Dalits into Islam and imparting training to them in handling weapons and martial arts.
The police have rounded up 15 persons... and seized from them long sickles, **foreign-made**daggers, cellphones (one having Arabic names and numerals), audio and video cassettes, an amplifier, a binocular, a camera, digital diaries, incriminating documents and Rs. 85,000 (in the denomination of Rs. 500).
But the masterminds, Khaja Mohideen (45) of Neyveli and Abdul Khani alias Pichaikhani of Keezhakarai have escaped."//////

WHY ARE THE POLICE NOT PURSUING FUGITIVES OF SUCH CASES THREATENING OUR VERY NATIONAL SECURITY? BUT WASTING TIME ON H.H SARAWATI?

Reason- We are separate and unequal and so nonsecular by very Government law and functioning!! Fascist colonialism has not ended for us. We are the most marginalized and disenfranchised lot than that in any other nation on earth. We are the only one LEFT BEHIND AND ISOLATED. WE DONT HAVE SELF-RULE OR AUTONOMY. WE ARE SUBJECT TO TAXATION W/O REPPRESENTATION. It is all about continued and escalating crimes to the point that we are not able
*to rule ourselves as majority deciding our own destiny [elections having been criminally hijacked by naxal contract murders], or
* live in peace without riots, or
* practise our religion when stones are thrown during Ganesh Chaturthi or Hanuman Jayanthi,
** our rights being eroded,
** our leaders like H.H Saraswati-ji [denied right to fair trail], Honorable Uma-ji [denied right to hoist flag, free speech and movement], Togodia-ji [denied right to free speech and movement] were denied the most basic rights,
***the very way of life under threat.

SEXUAL ABUSE AND RAPE OF MINORS HAVE BEEN DUGOUT IN MANY NATIONS, INCLUDING IRELAND, USA, AUSRATRALIA, CANADA....STARTING FROM ABUSE OF NATIVE INDIANS.
WHY ARE SUCH CRIMES IN INDIA NOT BEING UNCOVERED?
THOUSAND OF CRIMES AGAINST SOCIETY HAVE BEEN UNCOVERED BY PRIESTS - DOZENS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS IN USA ALONE.////////////



Are you a Secularist? Then please answer these questions,

1. There are nearly 52 Muslim countries. Show one Muslim country,
which provides Haj subsidy.
2. Show one Muslim country where Hindus are extended the special
rights that Muslims are accorded in India?
3. Show one Muslim country, which has a Non-Muslim as its President
or Prime Minister.
4. Show one country where the 85% majority craves for the indulgence
of the 15% minority.
5. Show one Mullah or Maulvi who has declared a 'fatwa' against
terrorists.
6. Hindu-majority Maharashtra, Bihar, Kerala, Pondicherry, etc. have
in the past elected Muslims as CMs; Can you ever imagine a Hindu becoming
the CM of Muslim - majority J&K?
7. Today Hindus are 85%. If Hindus are intolerant, how come Masjids
and Madrassas are thriving? How come Muslims are offering Namaz on the
road? How come Muslims are proclaiming 5 times a day on loudspeakers that
there is no God except Allah?
8. When Hindus gave to Muslims 30% of Bharat for a song, why should
Hindus now beg for their sacred places at Ayodhya, Mathura and Kashi?
9. Why temple funds are spent for the welfare of Muslims and
Christians, when they are free to spend their money in any way they like?
10. When uniform is made compulsory for school children, why there is no
Uniform Civil Code for citizens?
11. In what way, J&K is different from Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu or Uttar
Pradesh, to have article 370?
12. Why Gandhiji supported Khilafat Movement (nothing to do with our
freedom movement) and what in turn he got?
13. Why Gandhiji objected to the decision of the cabinet and insisted
that Somnath Temple should be reconstructed out of public fund, not government
funds. When in January 1948 he presurrised Nehru and Patel to carry on
renovation of the mosques of Delhi at government expenses?
14. If Muslims & Christians are minorities in Maharashtra, UP, Bihar
etc., are Hindus not minorities in J&K, Mizoram, Nagaland, Arunachal Pradesh,
Meghalaya etc? Why are Hindus denied minority rights in these states?
15. Do you admit that Hindus do have problems that need to be recognized?
Or do you think that those who call themselves Hindus are themselves the
problem?
16. Why post-Godhra is blown out of proportion, when no one talks of the
ethnic cleansing of 4 lakh Hindus from Kashmir?
17. In 1947, when India was partitioned, the Hindu population in pakistan
was about 24%. Today it is not even 1%. In 1947, the Hindu population in
East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) was 30%. Today it is about 7%. What
happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights?
18. In contrast, in India, Muslim population has gone up from 10.4% in
1951 to about 14% today; whereas Hindu population has come down from 87.2%
in 1951 to 85% in 1991. Do you still think that Hindus are
fundamentalists?
19. Do you consider that - Sanskrit is communal and Urdu is secular,
Mandir is Communal and Masjid is Secular, Sadhu is Communal and Imam is
Secular, BJP is communal and Muslim league is Secular, Dr. Praveen Bhai
Togadia is ANTI-NATIONAL and Bhukari is Secular, Vande Matharam is
communal and Allah-O-Akbar is secular, Shriman is communal and Mian is secular,
Hinduism is Communal and Islam is Secular, Hindutva is communal and
Jihadism is secular, and at last, Bharat is communal and Italy is Secular?
20. When Christian and Muslim schools can teach Bible and Quran, Why
Hindus cannot teach Gita or Ramayan?
21. Abdul Rehman Antuley was made a trustee of the famous Siddhi Vinayak
Temple in Prabhadevi, Mumbai Can a Hindu - say Mulayam or Laloo - ever
become a trustee of a Masjid or Madrassa?
22. Dr. Praveenbhai Togadia has been arrested many times on flimsy
grounds. has the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, Delhi, Ahmed Bhukari been
arrested for claiming to be an ISI agent and advocating partition of
Bharat?
23. When Haj pilgrims are given subsidy, why Hindu pilgrims to Amarnath,
Sabarimalai & Kailash Mansarovar are taxed?
A Muslim President, A Hindu Prime Minister and a Christian Defence
Minister running the affairs of the nation with a unity of purpose.

Can this happen anywhere, except in a HINDU NATION - BHARAT?
Later on please forward it to as many Hindus - Indians as possible

What is your opinion about Godhara train incident on dated 27/02/2002? More than 58 innocent people were killed (Including Women & Children).

More than 3000 innocent people were killed in Bombay Bomb blast.
Everyday on and average 10 innocent Hindus are killing in Jammu & Kashmir.
Lacs of Hindu Padits are staying in different states of India. It means migrated from J & K under the threat of Terrorist.
From Last two years more than 7000 bold Army men were became martyr.
More than 40,000 citizens had lost their lives till today.
100 innocent Hindus were killed who were going to Amaranth Yatra.
32 Hindus were killed in the attack of Akshardham temple.
The suiside attack was done on our assembly.
The Hindu is killed while the time of prayer in Raghunath Mandir (J&K).

We also meant that all the Muslims are not terrorists but why the entire terrorist is Muslim? Why all the terrorists attack was targeted only in Non-Islamic countries? Why at all the time Hindus & their temples were targeted in all terrorist attack.

All these centuries of Hindu appeal for dialogue has been met with monologue from non-Hindus, "Give me more or get killed; you are guilty because you are not forgetting my crimes!"
All this won't happen if Hindus empower themselves by ***boycott*** of muslim smugglers and traffickers.


Please think over it.